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Still not clear here, so I'll break things down a bit...

Elthir
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Feb 25 2013, 10:04pm


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Still not clear here, so I'll break things down a bit... [In reply to] Can't Post


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In Lord Elrond's case this is a non-issue. He chose to live as an Elf, so his children do inherit the choice of the Half-elven.




And this fits right in line with my post: the choice of immortality should come with an extension to the children.



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His brother, Elros, chose to live as a Man and so his children were denied the choice of the Half-elven and were considered mortal.




As I also said, Elros chose mortality and his children need not be extended the choice, and were not.



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Likewise, the children of Arwen and Aragorn would be mortal. I think that part of the key here is that a Half-elven needs to choose between mortality and immortality before he/she settles down into marriage and children.




Do you mean I forgot this part? Within the context of my post Elrond's children would still be mortal no matter who he married (according to the quote in the 1930s Silmarillion, as I described). Thus, the choice of 'immortality' would come with a notable price built in if his children were not granted other doom.

Of course Elrond married someone who shared his fate, but their children still had a measure of mortal blood, and without the choice they would be automatically mortal (in fate) according to this text, if not granted other doom (the Choice).


I'm not trying to be difficult here but I still fail to see what you have been noting as problematic, because it doesn't seem to be that the line in the 1930s Silmarillion should not be considered in this equation, which I'm aware some people might not agree with. No problem if someone doesn't, but that doesn't seem to be part of your responses so far.


(This post was edited by Elthir on Feb 25 2013, 10:10pm)

Subject User Time
The Half-elven and their "option" Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Feb 22 2013, 12:46pm
    The desendants of Elros Angharad73 Send a private message to Angharad73 Feb 22 2013, 3:45pm
        From and quick reading IdrilofGondolin Send a private message to IdrilofGondolin Feb 22 2013, 3:57pm
            Tolkien doesn't really give a definitive answer on which decision Elladan and Elrohir chose. / DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Feb 22 2013, 4:04pm
            Elladan and Elrohir Angharad73 Send a private message to Angharad73 Feb 22 2013, 4:04pm
                My understanding IdrilofGondolin Send a private message to IdrilofGondolin Feb 22 2013, 4:49pm
                    Tolkien apparently said... Angharad73 Send a private message to Angharad73 Feb 22 2013, 4:57pm
    the choice Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Feb 22 2013, 5:24pm
        Yes, it seems that parents make part of the choice for their children, and it's one way. CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Feb 22 2013, 7:39pm
            that annoying letter 153 Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Feb 23 2013, 3:29am
        No, I don't think that that is quite right... Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Feb 23 2013, 9:37pm
            can you clarify Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Feb 24 2013, 2:26am
                I thought that I was perfectly clear; however... Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Feb 24 2013, 5:24am
                    my idea Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Feb 25 2013, 1:06pm
                        You forget something... Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Feb 25 2013, 3:23pm
                            Still not clear here, so I'll break things down a bit... Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Feb 25 2013, 10:04pm
    The choices made PhantomS Send a private message to PhantomS Feb 23 2013, 3:42pm

 
 
 

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