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My turn!

anagum
The Shire


Feb 20 2013, 3:29am


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Waaaah, so many posts! I read the first two pages and there have a lot of good points mentioned but I just can't read them all.

I'll list my two cents.

Erebor: I understand that, for the sake of knowing what exactly the motive of the dwarves' was all about, this needed to be covered. But did it really need to be that extensive? Granted watching it the second time around, it made more sense to the overall cohesiveness of the story, but I felt like it stole a lot of energy and charm from what we're next introduced to, which is The Shire and our main character.

Azog: God, don't even get me started on Azog. No. Just no. Shoehorned and unnecessary conflict that completely sucked away at any light-heartedness that the story could have had. Why bring up Moria into this? Was it to add to Thorin's character? Why force epicness into something that's not SUPPOSED to be epic? What's worse, I have a feeling that this blue guy and his army of CGI friends (which, to me, feel like the overly-exagerated bad guys from 300 more than anything else) are going to be following Bilbo and Co. for the next two movies, which will only add more unnecesary tension all throughout. Battle of the Six Armies, anyone?

Rivendell: Ah, Rivendell. If it wasn't for the breathtaking views and the cool insight into Elvish culture (which was missed in the LOTR films because of the context), I probably would have fallen asleep during this whole scene, as most of my non-Tolkien fan friends almost did. The council served as nothing more than unnecessary ravel about something that neither the book speaks about nor does the audience care for, if that's what they were going for. Galadriel (as much as I love her character) was brought in to walk around in circles, look pretty and seem **mysterious**. Blah. And Saruman, what did they do to you? Also, was I the only who noticed how sappy and not subtle Gandalf's line was when talking about his reasons for choosing Bilbo? What's ironic was that this scene was dragged out to an extent where even the dwarves decided to leave early.

Goblin King: It felt awkward. It felt uncomfortable. Even annoying. It might have just been a mistake in casting, but I didn't enjoy watching him.

I'm not going to say this was a bad movie, because it wasn't. But a whole lot of editing would have done it very very good. I'm hoping (against hope?) that the next movies are better and that they don't repeat the same mistakes, but I stumbled upon an article explaining that Tauriel/Kili are going to be a thing now and I'm scared. Hopefully, if anything, it will be just a humorous scene and that's it.

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What do you dislike the most : TH AUJ Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Feb 14 2013, 1:02am
    Trolls IdrilofGondolin Send a private message to IdrilofGondolin Feb 14 2013, 1:13am
        And I cannot for the life of me understand why Gandalf wasn't given his entire "Dawn take you all and be stone to you" line Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Feb 14 2013, 1:36am
            I've wondered about that, too. BoromirOfWinterfell Send a private message to BoromirOfWinterfell Feb 15 2013, 12:34pm
    Just a wee bit of disappointment Aragalen the Green Send a private message to Aragalen the Green Feb 14 2013, 2:07am
    I saw it again this past Saturday afternoon, sauget.diblosio Send a private message to sauget.diblosio Feb 14 2013, 2:33am
    I'll do a top ten list real quick... jtarkey Send a private message to jtarkey Feb 14 2013, 3:43am
        Radagast glor Send a private message to glor Feb 14 2013, 5:27am
            I disagree Radagast-Aiwendil Send a private message to Radagast-Aiwendil Feb 15 2013, 7:25pm
                I am familiar with McCoys work glor Send a private message to glor Feb 15 2013, 10:48pm
                    Yes I know you're familiar Radagast-Aiwendil Send a private message to Radagast-Aiwendil Feb 16 2013, 11:16am
        Alteration of The Dwarven History, Alteration to Angmar's history, problems with certain character dynamics in The Council scene, Too Much Stone and Too much giant. . . AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 14 2013, 9:13am
            Epic post Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Feb 14 2013, 6:04pm
            Great post! And I completely agree about Radagast. Tintallė Send a private message to Tintallė Feb 14 2013, 7:08pm
        GT TFP Send a private message to TFP Feb 14 2013, 12:40pm
        You have nailed it imin Send a private message to imin Feb 14 2013, 12:40pm
            I don't know about nailed it. Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Feb 14 2013, 2:09pm
                They nailed it ;) imin Send a private message to imin Feb 14 2013, 2:53pm
                    Negative posts Glorfindela Send a private message to Glorfindela Feb 14 2013, 3:26pm
                        I think this was one mistake for me imin Send a private message to imin Feb 14 2013, 4:16pm
                    Thought vs Thought lol Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Feb 14 2013, 3:51pm
                    Great rant Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Feb 14 2013, 5:53pm
                    Hmmm. Why do I hear "scrubbing bubbles" echoing in my head?!!!!! // Tintallė Send a private message to Tintallė Feb 14 2013, 7:13pm
            Yeah, I'm trying to coin the phrase "tolkien goggles" jtarkey Send a private message to jtarkey Feb 14 2013, 7:07pm
                It doesn't make every film instantly enjoyable.... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Feb 14 2013, 7:29pm
                    Maybe not where you live :P imin Send a private message to imin Feb 14 2013, 8:06pm
                        Well yes, of course, anything in the film could have been done differently... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Feb 14 2013, 11:21pm
                            Bomby agrees W/ dormouse..completely... Bombadil Send a private message to Bombadil Feb 15 2013, 12:15am
                                I want them to do their thing imin Send a private message to imin Feb 15 2013, 12:22am
                            I am emphatically stating my opinion imin Send a private message to imin Feb 15 2013, 12:17am
                                I feel for ya jtarkey Send a private message to jtarkey Feb 15 2013, 12:44am
                                    Frivolous Modsuits JWPlatt Feb 15 2013, 1:04am
                                        Help! Help! I'm bein' repressed! Tintallė Send a private message to Tintallė Feb 15 2013, 1:17am
                            Context JWPlatt Feb 15 2013, 12:49am
                    Emotional and aesthetic positioning Michelle Johnston Feb 15 2013, 11:48am
                        Concerning diviniti and killing and a begginer Andy Serkis as a director Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) Send a private message to Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) Feb 15 2013, 8:45pm
        Pretty much Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Feb 14 2013, 5:30pm
    The Bunny Sled Chase Elutherian Send a private message to Elutherian Feb 14 2013, 3:46am
        Identical to mine totoro Send a private message to totoro Feb 14 2013, 6:46am
        yes, the chase itself is the biggest weakness Silmaril Send a private message to Silmaril Feb 14 2013, 10:44am
        Tru dat TwirlingThorin Send a private message to TwirlingThorin Feb 15 2013, 10:56pm
    Three Things JWPlatt Feb 14 2013, 4:13am
    The start of the credits. Roheryn Send a private message to Roheryn Feb 14 2013, 4:25am
        Brilliant! And ditto! // Tintallė Send a private message to Tintallė Feb 14 2013, 7:05am
    Fall of the Goblin King Sślimė Send a private message to Sślimė Feb 14 2013, 4:41am
    Slightly disliked cats16 Send a private message to cats16 Feb 14 2013, 5:01am
    It was way too short Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Feb 14 2013, 6:36am
        Hahahaha! Yes indeed! // Tintallė Send a private message to Tintallė Feb 14 2013, 7:04am
        Wild applause! dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Feb 14 2013, 8:51am
        Not for me Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Feb 14 2013, 5:27pm
        Haha! Owain Send a private message to Owain Feb 14 2013, 6:37pm
    Negativity for its own sake! // dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Feb 14 2013, 8:50am
        Pretty much lol Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Feb 14 2013, 12:24pm
        Why label it like that, "negativity for its own sake"? Macfeast Send a private message to Macfeast Feb 14 2013, 4:20pm
            Macfeast and Inin Glorfindela Send a private message to Glorfindela Feb 14 2013, 4:45pm
            Because that's how it seemed to me dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Feb 14 2013, 6:58pm
                OP may not have asked directly, word-for-word for thoughtful discussion. Macfeast Send a private message to Macfeast Feb 14 2013, 7:09pm
                    Perhaps we should Ask IdrilofGondolin Send a private message to IdrilofGondolin Feb 14 2013, 9:06pm
                Sometimes, negativity can bring positivity jtarkey Send a private message to jtarkey Feb 14 2013, 7:16pm
                    In fact Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) Send a private message to Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) Feb 15 2013, 8:05pm
        And the Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Feb 14 2013, 5:25pm
            Positivity is constructive.... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Feb 14 2013, 6:52pm
                I think this thread is rather excellent, actually Tintallė Send a private message to Tintallė Feb 15 2013, 1:16am
    I disliked only these things Glorfindela Send a private message to Glorfindela Feb 14 2013, 12:01pm
    I'm OK with most of the cinematic "cliches"... Kendalf Send a private message to Kendalf Feb 14 2013, 12:03pm
    "That'll do it." utku Send a private message to utku Feb 14 2013, 12:49pm
    Excesses of Spielbergian proportion... Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Feb 14 2013, 1:04pm
        Agreed but Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Feb 14 2013, 5:39pm
    Too much... Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) Send a private message to Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) Feb 14 2013, 1:57pm
        Yep, the totally unnatural lighting was another... Kendalf Send a private message to Kendalf Feb 14 2013, 5:09pm
            Yeah i agree imin Send a private message to imin Feb 14 2013, 5:15pm
        Hi there Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Feb 14 2013, 5:37pm
    I guess my main dislike can be summed up in one word: Old Toby Send a private message to Old Toby Feb 14 2013, 3:56pm
        I like his design Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Feb 14 2013, 5:56pm
        I loved Azog Tintallė Send a private message to Tintallė Feb 14 2013, 10:58pm
            Oh no! A positive post in a negative thread! ;) Lio Send a private message to Lio Feb 15 2013, 12:53am
    Most of my complaints stem from the "fan-fiction" portions Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Feb 14 2013, 6:06pm
        Another 'complaint' Glorfindela Send a private message to Glorfindela Feb 14 2013, 6:13pm
            Ditto Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Feb 14 2013, 6:29pm
    Easy - Goblin Town escape above all elostirion74 Send a private message to elostirion74 Feb 14 2013, 11:41pm
    Some thoughts and opinions Idhreneth Send a private message to Idhreneth Feb 15 2013, 12:08am
        He's only a very newly arisen, baby witch king after all! : p // Tintallė Send a private message to Tintallė Feb 15 2013, 1:33am
    The use of the "Nazgul" theme Lio Send a private message to Lio Feb 15 2013, 12:35am
        That bothered me too, actually Tintallė Send a private message to Tintallė Feb 15 2013, 1:31am
    I disliked a couple of things Ham_Sammy Send a private message to Ham_Sammy Feb 15 2013, 2:37am
    The Misty Mountain theme... Estel78 Send a private message to Estel78 Feb 15 2013, 4:13am
        It felt that needed a little bit more of gasoline Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) Send a private message to Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) Feb 15 2013, 8:26pm
            Someone that gets me!!! Estel78 Send a private message to Estel78 Feb 15 2013, 8:45pm
                Give me fuel give me fire! Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) Send a private message to Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) Feb 15 2013, 8:53pm
    Not so much CathrineB Send a private message to CathrineB Feb 15 2013, 12:46pm
        He was Arannir Send a private message to Arannir Feb 15 2013, 1:11pm
        On CGI glor Send a private message to glor Feb 15 2013, 10:45pm
    Trolls scene from the moment maut Send a private message to maut Feb 15 2013, 6:02pm
    my main complaint Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Feb 15 2013, 11:09pm
        Getting to the nub of the challange Michelle Johnston Feb 16 2013, 11:30am
            thank you for your comments Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Feb 16 2013, 1:01pm
                Chaucer a better example Michelle Johnston Feb 16 2013, 4:30pm
                    Some people imin Send a private message to imin Feb 16 2013, 5:55pm
                        Observation JWPlatt Feb 16 2013, 6:36pm
                            It was made as a joke imin Send a private message to imin Feb 16 2013, 6:39pm
                                Majority Rules JWPlatt Feb 16 2013, 6:45pm
                                    very true imin Send a private message to imin Feb 16 2013, 6:48pm
                                    But this isn't a hunting trip. macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Feb 16 2013, 6:49pm
            Learning From History JWPlatt Feb 16 2013, 2:36pm
                However... Estel78 Send a private message to Estel78 Feb 16 2013, 2:41pm
                    Films He Likes To See JWPlatt Feb 16 2013, 2:45pm
                        And that's good Estel78 Send a private message to Estel78 Feb 16 2013, 2:53pm
                Great Summary Michelle Johnston Feb 16 2013, 4:19pm
        I have to agree as usual... Eleniel Send a private message to Eleniel Feb 16 2013, 1:30pm
            Well, it is a children's book Estel78 Send a private message to Estel78 Feb 16 2013, 2:24pm
            On lost tension and manners glor Send a private message to glor Feb 16 2013, 4:33pm
                thats interesting Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Feb 16 2013, 5:02pm
                I thought imin Send a private message to imin Feb 16 2013, 5:53pm
                    Differences in manners are cultural.. glor Send a private message to glor Feb 16 2013, 6:16pm
                        The class system idea imin Send a private message to imin Feb 16 2013, 6:29pm
                            the thing I like most about Tolkien Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Feb 16 2013, 8:12pm
                The joy can only be in experiencing the journey Michelle Johnston Feb 17 2013, 7:12am
                    I really like this. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 17 2013, 11:09pm
                        A helping hand to our destiny Michelle Johnston Feb 18 2013, 10:22pm
                            Balance JWPlatt Feb 19 2013, 12:14am
        This one criticism rings most true to me, aside from those about major changes to the history of the legendarium itself. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 16 2013, 7:37pm
            reply imin Send a private message to imin Feb 16 2013, 7:44pm
                Indeed. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 16 2013, 8:50pm
                    Thank you Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Feb 16 2013, 11:08pm
                    Thank you very much and you are welcome for what i said :) imin Send a private message to imin Feb 17 2013, 1:29am
                        Absolutely. The excess damaged what I thought were otherwise quite good scenes. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 17 2013, 5:37am
                THIS! jtarkey Send a private message to jtarkey Feb 17 2013, 1:05am
    Give me any work of art or literature. Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Feb 15 2013, 11:19pm
        I just thought of another one ... Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Feb 15 2013, 11:24pm
        This one is actually true. imin Send a private message to imin Feb 16 2013, 12:23am
    Goblin King's one liner WhiskFishercat Send a private message to WhiskFishercat Feb 16 2013, 12:37am
    That it's not at my theatre anymore *chin quivers* // grammaboodawg Send a private message to grammaboodawg Feb 16 2013, 3:27am
    "NO! SEBASTIAN!" // macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Feb 16 2013, 6:41pm
    I don't get the Bombur complaints. macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Feb 16 2013, 6:46pm
        You have mentioned almost all the times his weight has caused something different for himself imin Send a private message to imin Feb 16 2013, 6:57pm
            I have indeed discussed this before macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Feb 16 2013, 7:04pm
                There was someone else imin Send a private message to imin Feb 16 2013, 7:25pm
            Bombur JWPlatt Feb 16 2013, 7:21pm
                It was more than adequate compared to the book at this point macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Feb 16 2013, 7:24pm
                    I think it's too early to say imin Send a private message to imin Feb 16 2013, 7:29pm
                        Bofur, Dori and Ori recieved noticable attention. And, to a lesser extent, AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 16 2013, 7:38pm
                            Oh yeah so did Bofur imin Send a private message to imin Feb 16 2013, 7:47pm
                    Tolkien, though, made no claims that all dwarves would get attention. Macfeast Send a private message to Macfeast Feb 17 2013, 12:26am
                        IDK jtarkey Send a private message to jtarkey Feb 17 2013, 1:12am
    My turn! anagum Send a private message to anagum Feb 20 2013, 3:29am

 
 
 

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