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My turn!

anagum
The Shire


Feb 20, 3:29am


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Waaaah, so many posts! I read the first two pages and there have a lot of good points mentioned but I just can't read them all.

I'll list my two cents.

Erebor: I understand that, for the sake of knowing what exactly the motive of the dwarves' was all about, this needed to be covered. But did it really need to be that extensive? Granted watching it the second time around, it made more sense to the overall cohesiveness of the story, but I felt like it stole a lot of energy and charm from what we're next introduced to, which is The Shire and our main character.

Azog: God, don't even get me started on Azog. No. Just no. Shoehorned and unnecessary conflict that completely sucked away at any light-heartedness that the story could have had. Why bring up Moria into this? Was it to add to Thorin's character? Why force epicness into something that's not SUPPOSED to be epic? What's worse, I have a feeling that this blue guy and his army of CGI friends (which, to me, feel like the overly-exagerated bad guys from 300 more than anything else) are going to be following Bilbo and Co. for the next two movies, which will only add more unnecesary tension all throughout. Battle of the Six Armies, anyone?

Rivendell: Ah, Rivendell. If it wasn't for the breathtaking views and the cool insight into Elvish culture (which was missed in the LOTR films because of the context), I probably would have fallen asleep during this whole scene, as most of my non-Tolkien fan friends almost did. The council served as nothing more than unnecessary ravel about something that neither the book speaks about nor does the audience care for, if that's what they were going for. Galadriel (as much as I love her character) was brought in to walk around in circles, look pretty and seem **mysterious**. Blah. And Saruman, what did they do to you? Also, was I the only who noticed how sappy and not subtle Gandalf's line was when talking about his reasons for choosing Bilbo? What's ironic was that this scene was dragged out to an extent where even the dwarves decided to leave early.

Goblin King: It felt awkward. It felt uncomfortable. Even annoying. It might have just been a mistake in casting, but I didn't enjoy watching him.

I'm not going to say this was a bad movie, because it wasn't. But a whole lot of editing would have done it very very good. I'm hoping (against hope?) that the next movies are better and that they don't repeat the same mistakes, but I stumbled upon an article explaining that Tauriel/Kili are going to be a thing now and I'm scared. Hopefully, if anything, it will be just a humorous scene and that's it.

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What do you dislike the most : TH AUJ Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Feb 14, 1:02am
    Trolls IdrilofGondolin Send a private message to IdrilofGondolin Feb 14, 1:13am
        And I cannot for the life of me understand why Gandalf wasn't given his entire "Dawn take you all and be stone to you" line Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Feb 14, 1:36am
            I've wondered about that, too. BoromirOfWinterfell Send a private message to BoromirOfWinterfell Feb 15, 12:34pm
    Just a wee bit of disappointment Aragalen the Green Send a private message to Aragalen the Green Feb 14, 2:07am
    I saw it again this past Saturday afternoon, sauget.diblosio Send a private message to sauget.diblosio Feb 14, 2:33am
    I'll do a top ten list real quick... jtarkey Send a private message to jtarkey Feb 14, 3:43am
        Radagast glor Send a private message to glor Feb 14, 5:27am
            I disagree Radagast-Aiwendil Send a private message to Radagast-Aiwendil Feb 15, 7:25pm
                I am familiar with McCoys work glor Send a private message to glor Feb 15, 10:48pm
                    Yes I know you're familiar Radagast-Aiwendil Send a private message to Radagast-Aiwendil Feb 16, 11:16am
        Alteration of The Dwarven History, Alteration to Angmar's history, problems with certain character dynamics in The Council scene, Too Much Stone and Too much giant. . . AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 14, 9:13am
            Epic post Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Feb 14, 6:04pm
            Great post! And I completely agree about Radagast. Tintallė Send a private message to Tintallė Feb 14, 7:08pm
        GT TFP Send a private message to TFP Feb 14, 12:40pm
        You have nailed it imin Send a private message to imin Feb 14, 12:40pm
            I don't know about nailed it. Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Feb 14, 2:09pm
                They nailed it ;) imin Send a private message to imin Feb 14, 2:53pm
                    Negative posts Glorfindela Send a private message to Glorfindela Feb 14, 3:26pm
                        I think this was one mistake for me imin Send a private message to imin Feb 14, 4:16pm
                    Thought vs Thought lol Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Feb 14, 3:51pm
                    Great rant Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Feb 14, 5:53pm
                    Hmmm. Why do I hear "scrubbing bubbles" echoing in my head?!!!!! // Tintallė Send a private message to Tintallė Feb 14, 7:13pm
            Yeah, I'm trying to coin the phrase "tolkien goggles" jtarkey Send a private message to jtarkey Feb 14, 7:07pm
                It doesn't make every film instantly enjoyable.... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Feb 14, 7:29pm
                    Maybe not where you live :P imin Send a private message to imin Feb 14, 8:06pm
                        Well yes, of course, anything in the film could have been done differently... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Feb 14, 11:21pm
                            Bomby agrees W/ dormouse..completely... Bombadil Send a private message to Bombadil Feb 15, 12:15am
                                I want them to do their thing imin Send a private message to imin Feb 15, 12:22am
                            I am emphatically stating my opinion imin Send a private message to imin Feb 15, 12:17am
                                I feel for ya jtarkey Send a private message to jtarkey Feb 15, 12:44am
                                    Frivolous Modsuits JWPlatt Send a private message to JWPlatt Feb 15, 1:04am
                                        Help! Help! I'm bein' repressed! Tintallė Send a private message to Tintallė Feb 15, 1:17am
                            Context JWPlatt Send a private message to JWPlatt Feb 15, 12:49am
                    Emotional and aesthetic positioning Michelle Johnston Send a private message to Michelle Johnston Feb 15, 11:48am
                        Concerning diviniti and killing and a begginer Andy Serkis as a director isaac Send a private message to isaac Feb 15, 8:45pm
        Pretty much Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Feb 14, 5:30pm
    The Bunny Sled Chase Elutherian Send a private message to Elutherian Feb 14, 3:46am
        Identical to mine totoro Send a private message to totoro Feb 14, 6:46am
        yes, the chase itself is the biggest weakness Silmaril Send a private message to Silmaril Feb 14, 10:44am
        Tru dat TwirlingThorin Send a private message to TwirlingThorin Feb 15, 10:56pm
    Three Things JWPlatt Send a private message to JWPlatt Feb 14, 4:13am
    The start of the credits. Roheryn Send a private message to Roheryn Feb 14, 4:25am
        Brilliant! And ditto! // Tintallė Send a private message to Tintallė Feb 14, 7:05am
    Fall of the Goblin King Sślimė Send a private message to Sślimė Feb 14, 4:41am
    Slightly disliked cats16 Send a private message to cats16 Feb 14, 5:01am
    It was way too short Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Feb 14, 6:36am
        Hahahaha! Yes indeed! // Tintallė Send a private message to Tintallė Feb 14, 7:04am
        Wild applause! dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Feb 14, 8:51am
        Not for me Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Feb 14, 5:27pm
        Haha! Owain Send a private message to Owain Feb 14, 6:37pm
    Negativity for its own sake! // dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Feb 14, 8:50am
        Pretty much lol Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Feb 14, 12:24pm
        Why label it like that, "negativity for its own sake"? Macfeast Send a private message to Macfeast Feb 14, 4:20pm
            Macfeast and Inin Glorfindela Send a private message to Glorfindela Feb 14, 4:45pm
            Because that's how it seemed to me dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Feb 14, 6:58pm
                OP may not have asked directly, word-for-word for thoughtful discussion. Macfeast Send a private message to Macfeast Feb 14, 7:09pm
                    Perhaps we should Ask IdrilofGondolin Send a private message to IdrilofGondolin Feb 14, 9:06pm
                Sometimes, negativity can bring positivity jtarkey Send a private message to jtarkey Feb 14, 7:16pm
                    In fact isaac Send a private message to isaac Feb 15, 8:05pm
        And the Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Feb 14, 5:25pm
            Positivity is constructive.... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Feb 14, 6:52pm
                I think this thread is rather excellent, actually Tintallė Send a private message to Tintallė Feb 15, 1:16am
    I disliked only these things Glorfindela Send a private message to Glorfindela Feb 14, 12:01pm
    I'm OK with most of the cinematic "cliches"... Kendalf Send a private message to Kendalf Feb 14, 12:03pm
    "That'll do it." utku Send a private message to utku Feb 14, 12:49pm
    Excesses of Spielbergian proportion... Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Feb 14, 1:04pm
        Agreed but Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Feb 14, 5:39pm
    Too much... isaac Send a private message to isaac Feb 14, 1:57pm
        Yep, the totally unnatural lighting was another... Kendalf Send a private message to Kendalf Feb 14, 5:09pm
            Yeah i agree imin Send a private message to imin Feb 14, 5:15pm
        Hi there Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Feb 14, 5:37pm
    I guess my main dislike can be summed up in one word: Old Toby Send a private message to Old Toby Feb 14, 3:56pm
        I like his design Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Feb 14, 5:56pm
        I loved Azog Tintallė Send a private message to Tintallė Feb 14, 10:58pm
            Oh no! A positive post in a negative thread! ;) Lio Send a private message to Lio Feb 15, 12:53am
    Most of my complaints stem from the "fan-fiction" portions Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Feb 14, 6:06pm
        Another 'complaint' Glorfindela Send a private message to Glorfindela Feb 14, 6:13pm
            Ditto Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Feb 14, 6:29pm
    Easy - Goblin Town escape above all elostirion74 Send a private message to elostirion74 Feb 14, 11:41pm
    Some thoughts and opinions Idhreneth Send a private message to Idhreneth Feb 15, 12:08am
        He's only a very newly arisen, baby witch king after all! : p // Tintallė Send a private message to Tintallė Feb 15, 1:33am
    The use of the "Nazgul" theme Lio Send a private message to Lio Feb 15, 12:35am
        That bothered me too, actually Tintallė Send a private message to Tintallė Feb 15, 1:31am
    I disliked a couple of things Ham_Sammy Send a private message to Ham_Sammy Feb 15, 2:37am
    The Misty Mountain theme... Estel78 Send a private message to Estel78 Feb 15, 4:13am
        It felt that needed a little bit more of gasoline isaac Send a private message to isaac Feb 15, 8:26pm
            Someone that gets me!!! Estel78 Send a private message to Estel78 Feb 15, 8:45pm
                Give me fuel give me fire! isaac Send a private message to isaac Feb 15, 8:53pm
    Not so much CathrineB Send a private message to CathrineB Feb 15, 12:46pm
        He was Arannir Send a private message to Arannir Feb 15, 1:11pm
        On CGI glor Send a private message to glor Feb 15, 10:45pm
    Trolls scene from the moment maut Send a private message to maut Feb 15, 6:02pm
    my main complaint Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Feb 15, 11:09pm
        Getting to the nub of the challange Michelle Johnston Send a private message to Michelle Johnston Feb 16, 11:30am
            thank you for your comments Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Feb 16, 1:01pm
                Chaucer a better example Michelle Johnston Send a private message to Michelle Johnston Feb 16, 4:30pm
                    Some people imin Send a private message to imin Feb 16, 5:55pm
                        Observation JWPlatt Send a private message to JWPlatt Feb 16, 6:36pm
                            It was made as a joke imin Send a private message to imin Feb 16, 6:39pm
                                Majority Rules JWPlatt Send a private message to JWPlatt Feb 16, 6:45pm
                                    very true imin Send a private message to imin Feb 16, 6:48pm
                                    But this isn't a hunting trip. macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Feb 16, 6:49pm
            Learning From History JWPlatt Send a private message to JWPlatt Feb 16, 2:36pm
                However... Estel78 Send a private message to Estel78 Feb 16, 2:41pm
                    Films He Likes To See JWPlatt Send a private message to JWPlatt Feb 16, 2:45pm
                        And that's good Estel78 Send a private message to Estel78 Feb 16, 2:53pm
                Great Summary Michelle Johnston Send a private message to Michelle Johnston Feb 16, 4:19pm
        I have to agree as usual... Eleniel Send a private message to Eleniel Feb 16, 1:30pm
            Well, it is a children's book Estel78 Send a private message to Estel78 Feb 16, 2:24pm
            On lost tension and manners glor Send a private message to glor Feb 16, 4:33pm
                thats interesting Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Feb 16, 5:02pm
                I thought imin Send a private message to imin Feb 16, 5:53pm
                    Differences in manners are cultural.. glor Send a private message to glor Feb 16, 6:16pm
                        The class system idea imin Send a private message to imin Feb 16, 6:29pm
                            the thing I like most about Tolkien Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Feb 16, 8:12pm
                The joy can only be in experiencing the journey Michelle Johnston Send a private message to Michelle Johnston Feb 17, 7:12am
                    I really like this. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 17, 11:09pm
                        A helping hand to our destiny Michelle Johnston Send a private message to Michelle Johnston Feb 18, 10:22pm
                            Balance JWPlatt Send a private message to JWPlatt Feb 19, 12:14am
        This one criticism rings most true to me, aside from those about major changes to the history of the legendarium itself. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 16, 7:37pm
            reply imin Send a private message to imin Feb 16, 7:44pm
                Indeed. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 16, 8:50pm
                    Thank you Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Feb 16, 11:08pm
                    Thank you very much and you are welcome for what i said :) imin Send a private message to imin Feb 17, 1:29am
                        Absolutely. The excess damaged what I thought were otherwise quite good scenes. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 17, 5:37am
                THIS! jtarkey Send a private message to jtarkey Feb 17, 1:05am
    Give me any work of art or literature. Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Feb 15, 11:19pm
        I just thought of another one ... Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Feb 15, 11:24pm
        This one is actually true. imin Send a private message to imin Feb 16, 12:23am
    Goblin King's one liner WhiskFishercat Send a private message to WhiskFishercat Feb 16, 12:37am
    That it's not at my theatre anymore *chin quivers* // grammaboodawg Send a private message to grammaboodawg Feb 16, 3:27am
    "NO! SEBASTIAN!" // macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Feb 16, 6:41pm
    I don't get the Bombur complaints. macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Feb 16, 6:46pm
        You have mentioned almost all the times his weight has caused something different for himself imin Send a private message to imin Feb 16, 6:57pm
            I have indeed discussed this before macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Feb 16, 7:04pm
                There was someone else imin Send a private message to imin Feb 16, 7:25pm
            Bombur JWPlatt Send a private message to JWPlatt Feb 16, 7:21pm
                It was more than adequate compared to the book at this point macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Feb 16, 7:24pm
                    I think it's too early to say imin Send a private message to imin Feb 16, 7:29pm
                        Bofur, Dori and Ori recieved noticable attention. And, to a lesser extent, AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 16, 7:38pm
                            Oh yeah so did Bofur imin Send a private message to imin Feb 16, 7:47pm
                    Tolkien, though, made no claims that all dwarves would get attention. Macfeast Send a private message to Macfeast Feb 17, 12:26am
                        IDK jtarkey Send a private message to jtarkey Feb 17, 1:12am
    My turn! anagum Send a private message to anagum Feb 20, 3:29am

 
 
 

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