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Uruk Hai & more on Bolg

Michelle Johnston

Feb 15 2013, 11:03am

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Uruk Hai & more on Bolg [In reply to] Can't Post

I need to return to the TTT text, the book is currently in storage so is not to hand but I am certain there is some sense in the book that Saruman has bred/improved/interferred with the U H rather than they have improved by natural selection.

If you make something of the Azog/Bolg father son connection and Bolg or Azog go early you can bring the grief of kinship into both sides of the story. So either Azog or Bolg are seeking revenge for the loss of their son/ father.


If you want to retain the focus on Thorin and Azig /Bolg is mere fact with no exposition.

Film 1 has set up the the Azog Thorin arc through Thrors death.

Film 2 can set up the Bolg Thorin arc through Thrains capture and subsequent torture by Bolg.

If Thorin is confronted by both at the Five Armies ( we have already seen them fighting together at BofA) taunting him about his grand father and father that could set in motion the sequence of madness on the battlefield that replicates all of Tolkiens interactions. The only bit that needs to be filled in with this option is Bolg surviving TBoDG.

I tried to save the shire , and it has been but not for me.

Subject User Time
Big Bad Bolg (book spoilers & movie speculation) Lio Send a private message to Lio Feb 13 2013, 2:01am
    My, what big teeth you have! Roheryn Send a private message to Roheryn Feb 13 2013, 10:21am
        they will set up Dain in some way Valandil ed Imladris Send a private message to Valandil ed Imladris Feb 13 2013, 11:06am
        I do hope... *book spoilers* Angharad73 Send a private message to Angharad73 Feb 13 2013, 11:22am
            Many spoilers here. Re: who kills whom (?) Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Feb 13 2013, 6:13pm
        Dwarves and Orcs and Beorn and BoFA (more book spoilers!) Lio Send a private message to Lio Feb 14 2013, 3:58am
            Exactly! And yes more spoilers.... Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Feb 14 2013, 4:46pm
                Poor Thorin! And the Bolg/Azog connection (book spoilers continued!) Lio Send a private message to Lio Feb 14 2013, 11:38pm
                    Thank you! I didn't know that about the figures. Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Feb 15 2013, 2:54am
    No relationship nhui06 Send a private message to nhui06 Feb 13 2013, 3:34pm
        I would prefer it Glorfindela Send a private message to Glorfindela Feb 13 2013, 4:06pm
        This is close to my thinking Michelle Johnston Feb 13 2013, 10:21pm
            I hope they don't try to void it. Azog and Bolg are only unique in that their kinship is mentioned and specified, AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 13 2013, 11:13pm
                The nonesense of growing orcs from the ground was exactly nonsense, whooeey that Peter made up to be more PG Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Feb 14 2013, 1:51am
                Filling In The Point Michelle Johnston Feb 14 2013, 7:41am
                    Saruman's Uruk-hai Lio Send a private message to Lio Feb 15 2013, 12:06am
                        Uruk Hai & more on Bolg Michelle Johnston Feb 15 2013, 11:03am
    Could it be possible... MEIGWIT Send a private message to MEIGWIT Feb 13 2013, 4:30pm
    Other thoughts IdrilofGondolin Send a private message to IdrilofGondolin Feb 14 2013, 1:08am


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