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TH:AUJ shutout at BAFTAs--0-3
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Old Toby
Gondor


Feb 11 2013, 3:45pm

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I hope TH will win at least one award for Make Up. I thought turning those actors into dwarves was fantastic. And they lost this category to Les Mis? Really? sigh.

"Age is always advancing and I'm fairly sure it's up to no good." Harry Dresden (Jim Butcher)


IdrilofGondolin
Rohan

Feb 11 2013, 8:18pm

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In fact, how can any film board have movies so totally different in the same category? There is no comparison between the make-up in Les Miz and TH. The make-up in TH is exponentially more difficult. But my take has always been that the Academy was angry that it had to acknowledge the greatness of LOTR and is punishing PJ with its disdain for TH.


Clifton8
The Shire

Feb 11 2013, 8:18pm

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Absolutely no reason to be upset at this point!!!

TABA will be epic and again a clean sweep with the awards.


dubulous
Rohan

Feb 11 2013, 8:43pm

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I've seen Life of Pi [In reply to] Can't Post

and in my opinion it had nothing AUJ on any level - not as a movie and not with visuals. But it is the movie with better buzz so it will probably keep winning AUJ.


Ham_Sammy
Tol Eressea

Feb 12 2013, 12:10am

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I didn't really expect any to be honest.I think the film boards both here and in the US will pretty much ignore it save for one or two nods.I would imagine this is down to the fact that,as others have said,the 'vision' is not new anymore,they probably feel they've seen it all before which to a certain extent they have.also 'life of pi' is the flavour of the month kind of film just as the rings films were when they came out,rightly so as it is a top film.so we shouldn't read too much in to lack of awards for as we all know there have been many great movies made that never won anything.a film doesn't have to win awards to be loved or enjoyed.


This is my feeling as well. It may get one or two (I am hoping for one or two acting nods by the end) but barring that Im not too confident it will snag any more exactly for the reasons you've stated.


burrahobbit
Rohan


Feb 12 2013, 12:24am

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Better chance with DoS and TaBA [In reply to] Can't Post

I wouldn't be surprised if AUJ misses out on the Oscars also. Technical awards tend to go to films also nominated for the major best film/director/actor awards.

Since DoS brings many more new characters and locations, including hopefully an amazing Smaug, it seems a more likely candidate for Visual Effects awards. The 'more of the same' feeling associated with AUJ should be less applicable to the coming films.


Silmaril
Lorien


Feb 12 2013, 9:57am

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Stephen Fry mocks The Hobbit at BAFTAs [In reply to] Can't Post

http://tvnz.co.nz/...99/video?vid=5338714


SirDennisC
Half-elven


Feb 12 2013, 2:18pm

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though that was at a British awards ceremony, after all.


imin
Valinor


Feb 12 2013, 2:27pm

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Haha so true! [In reply to] Can't Post

He also said another joke to this effect before MF came out to present the award for Best Documentary - really seems to be having a go at his former employees expense! Tongue


Nightwing
Bree

Feb 13 2013, 4:07am

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It's simply not a very good film.

Philippa Boyens and Fran Walsh can't write, and Galadriel is not the most powerful being in all of Middle-earth. She is inferior to Sauron, Saruman, and Gandalf.


Arannir
Valinor

Feb 13 2013, 7:11am

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Sorry, I enjoy criticism. But this just sounds bitter. [In reply to] Can't Post


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It's simply not a very good film.


Especially connected to this signature and the endless rage over ONE quote by Boyens... in which she tried to say something quite different then putting up an all-time power list of ME Crazy


(This post was edited by Arannir on Feb 13 2013, 7:13am)


Eleniel
Tol Eressea


Feb 13 2013, 11:42am

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Maybe so... [In reply to] Can't Post

But that is down to scriptwriting and characterization choices. All those at Weta, Weta Digital and on the art/costume/make-up production teams, etc, have done an incredible job as usual bringing M-e to life and fully deserve their nominations - and hopefully, wins.


"Choosing Trust over Doubt gets me burned once in a while, but I'd rather be singed than hardened."
Victoria Monfort






JWPlatt
Grey Havens


Feb 13 2013, 12:11pm

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It's simply not a very good film.


Sorry, I enjoy criticism. But this just sounds bitter. Especially connected to this signature and the endless rage over ONE quote by Boyens... in which she tried to say something quite different then putting up an all-time power list of ME Crazy


There has been recent discussion that Gandalf has been written as subservient to Galadriel despite Gandalf being more god to Galadriel as written by Tolkien. Regarding Galadriel and Tauriel, Boyens is also on record as wanting to bring a feminine power [in a story full of males]. I would posit for sake of argument that, while demographics are important to big budget films, there is a somewhat sexist agenda in Boyens' writing and she is also on record as using Writing 101 dogma. To wit, the "dramatic reversal" in "Go home Sam" which was certainly not a popular change to the story. So the attitude toward her is not completely held in a vacuum.


(This post was edited by JWPlatt on Feb 13 2013, 12:17pm)

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