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And there was the matter of that Balrog.

AinurOlorin
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Feb 10 2013, 3:12am


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And there was the matter of that Balrog. [In reply to] Can't Post

Out of sight. . . maybe. . . but not to be counted out all together. Durin and a kingdom of dwarves couldn't stand against him. . . half an army of wounded and weary dwarves would have been doomed before they started if they had passed beyond the gate.

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Erebor, nope.

Well, a dragon is a different situation altogether. If they were being chased by a dragon the whole movie, I would support them running away.


Azanulbizar, well, yeah, they technically won, but lots of dead dwarves, and they aren't living there, are they?


The numbers weren't exactly equal. If Azog had hundreds of orcs with him I'd support running, but it doesn't look like an army, just another company.

Trolls--even though they seemed to hack, stab and whack them at length, all I saw were a few troll teeth go, no wounds to speak of.

Missing teeth are wounds? To be fair, the dwarves didn't have wounds either. They could have kept fighting had it not been for Bilbo.

With Azog in the trees--when they did finally attack, it didn't go well.


Thorin fought the only competent orc by himself and lost. When the other dwarves (and even Bilbo!) decided to help, they held their own.

They were surrounded until, well, eagles. I think running away is a good plan for this group.

They were very nearly all killed, and it's a problem that could have been solved long ago. Also, don't forget the possible help of the Elves in coordinating a nearby ambush.


"Hear me, hounds of Sauron, Gandalf is here! Fly if you value your foul skins, I will shrivel you from tail to snout if you step within this circle!"

"Do not be to eager to deal out death in judgement. Even the very wise cannot see all ends."

Subject User Time
Why didn't they fight Azog? stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Feb 8 2013, 2:59pm
    They are stuck on trees Eowyn3 Send a private message to Eowyn3 Feb 8 2013, 3:06pm
        Not referring to the tree scene stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Feb 8 2013, 3:10pm
            Sorry, got the wrong scene. Eowyn3 Send a private message to Eowyn3 Feb 8 2013, 4:38pm
    Fighting wouldn't have guaranteed they'd all survive would it? Earl Send a private message to Earl Feb 8 2013, 3:23pm
    The dwarves generally run away a lot Kimtc Send a private message to Kimtc Feb 8 2013, 3:39pm
        no more running! stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Feb 8 2013, 4:18pm
            And there was the matter of that Balrog. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 10 2013, 3:12am
    Some thoughts... Owain Send a private message to Owain Feb 8 2013, 9:00pm
        well said // Rostron2 Send a private message to Rostron2 Feb 8 2013, 9:19pm
        not a hole in logic irodino Send a private message to irodino Feb 9 2013, 5:10am
            Agreed.// Owain Send a private message to Owain Feb 9 2013, 5:37am

 
 
 

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