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Northern Latitudes of Middle earth

Bombadil
Half-elven


Feb 3 2013, 4:16am

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Northern Latitudes of Middle earth Can't Post

While reading TH as a kid
there was a snow storm and it
seem that we were
in the
northern latitudes...

Then the Lord of the Rings
was like
a" world tour of Middle earth?"

Even down to Rohan
and finally mordor
The Hobbit is literally the same latitude across Middle Earth so temperate rainforests are going to be
Mossy MirkwoodHeart


The Mitch King
Rohan


Feb 3 2013, 4:34am

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What? [In reply to] Can't Post

I have the hardest time understanding your posts haha


Lusitano
Tol Eressea


Feb 3 2013, 2:32pm

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Bomby is [In reply to] Can't Post

our very own Tom Bombadil. Nobody understood him as well.Wink

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painjoiker
Grey Havens


Feb 3 2013, 4:13pm

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It's kind of his thing! [In reply to] Can't Post

And TORn wouldn't be the same without him!

Vocalist in the progressive metal band Renamed.


Bombadil
Half-elven


Feb 3 2013, 4:28pm

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okay if Middle Earth is an ancient Europe [In reply to] Can't Post

The Shire is directly West of the Lonely Mountain.
They go even further north when they stop in at Beorn's.
which might as well be South Scandinavia.

Rohan & Gondor, in the movies
It seem like it was too Southern.

When the dwarves enter Mirkwood they can't even Light a fire?
Wet raining from the Misty Mountains ( so think temperate rainforest)
Only 3 places on our planet have temperate rainforests.

Olympic Peninsula in Washington and Oregon, Patagonia in southern Argentina and yes down in a fiordlands of Southern New Zealand!


(This post was edited by Bombadil on Feb 3 2013, 4:33pm)


Lusitano
Tol Eressea


Feb 3 2013, 5:12pm

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So mirkwood [In reply to] Can't Post

would be in.....Russia?Wink

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sharpened_graphite
Rivendell

Feb 3 2013, 5:58pm

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Mirkwood is the name of a forest mentioned in the Nibelungenlied... [In reply to] Can't Post

...so Mirkwood would be somewhere in Germany.

That said, Beorn's name originally was Medwed (Russian for "bear"), so who knows...


Lusitano
Tol Eressea


Feb 3 2013, 6:01pm

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And who are [In reply to] Can't Post

the spiders?Tongue

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╩leniel Tindome
Bree


Feb 3 2013, 8:06pm

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Mirkwood - Schwarzwald (maybe)... [In reply to] Can't Post

...in germany.... very huge forest, but dont now bout the spiders and elves living there. Iam from germany but never been there. Btw we have a lot of huge and different beautiful forests worth visiting...


swordwhale
Tol Eressea


Feb 3 2013, 8:20pm

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Mirky woods and northern latitudes... [In reply to] Can't Post

I live in Pennsylvania, which translates as Penn's Woods (William Penn, founder, etc)... it's rather mirky in places, temperate, though not rainforesty.

We did have a senator named Greenleaf... legit: Stewart J. Greenleaf. I can't make this stuff up.

Probably have some Dwarves too, as there is a large mining industry here.

Go outside and play...


swordwhale
Tol Eressea


Feb 3 2013, 8:22pm

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random question... [In reply to] Can't Post

aren't the Brothers "ur" (Bifur, Bofur, Bombur) from somewhere in the "north"... Bofur, especially, channels Alaskan/Yukon gold miner...

I picture them mushing Malamutes across the tundra or something...

Go outside and play...


sharpened_graphite
Rivendell

Feb 3 2013, 9:03pm

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Wikipedia also mentions Schwarzwald as the possible real life Mirkwood: [In reply to] Can't Post

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myrkvi%C3%B0r

And there's also a quote from Tolkien at the bottom of the page about the name Mirkwood and its etymology.

I flew on a plane over a forest or two in Germany (not Schwarzwald), didn't have the opportunity to actually visit them but it still was a spectacular view.


Eruonen
Tol Eressea


Feb 3 2013, 10:06pm

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We discussed LOTR maps overlayed on the real world a few months ago [In reply to] Can't Post

and there are several choices, including:

http://bigthink.com/...rth-was-middle-earth

In this one...Mirkwood would stretch from Sweden/Finland
to the coast of northern Germany /Poland (Baltic sea).

Compare to:
http://www.google.com/...QQ9QEwBw&dur=474


(This post was edited by Eruonen on Feb 3 2013, 10:10pm)


TheSexyBeard
Lorien

Feb 3 2013, 10:18pm

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Blue Mountains? [In reply to] Can't Post


In Reply To
aren't the Brothers "ur" (Bifur, Bofur, Bombur) from somewhere in the "north"... Bofur, especially, channels Alaskan/Yukon gold miner...

I picture them mushing Malamutes across the tundra or something...







I think they are meant to be from the Blue Mountains, West of the Shire. Open invitation to the forum to correct me if I've gotten my geography and Dwarf homes wrong Tongue

Yes, my username is terrible.

 
 

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