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Worries about DOS
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Feb 1 2013, 12:43am

Post #26 of 33 (278 views)
She might perish trying to save Kili. . . or merely be wounded and filled with grief. [In reply to] Can't Post

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And I would hazard a guess that in TABA she will meet the same fate, probably in a similar manner. Ties up a lot of loose ends.

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Seriously. Isn't it way too early to start worrying yet? PJ eventually came to his senses about Arwen fighting at Helm's Deep (yes, she was originally supposed to turn up there -- and fight!), and I can only cross my fingers and trust that he will remain sensible with whatever he has Tauriel do. And Legolas? Well, we already know he can surf the wild mūmakil, and shield-surf down long flights of stairs -- he doesn't have much left to prove, does he? So surely PJ will leave the proving up to Bilbo, as it should be. PJ's not going to ruin Bilbo's character arc; if anything, he'll enhance it, elaborate it, embellish it, etc. in fantastic ways we haven't yet imagined. As grammaboodawg says, "Trust PJ." I think DOS is in good hands.

"Hear me, hounds of Sauron, Gandalf is here! Fly if you value your foul skins, I will shrivel you from tail to snout if you step within this circle!"

"Do not be to eager to deal out death in judgement. Even the very wise cannot see all ends."


Feb 1 2013, 3:51am

Post #27 of 33 (265 views)
Fry does supercilious really well. [In reply to] Can't Post

I think that may be what they were looking for.

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I know many people here think that he's brilliant...but I think he's a terrible actor. I've watched some of his movies and I really, really do not like his style. I don't know what PJ & crew sees in him.Crazy


Feb 1 2013, 6:16pm

Post #28 of 33 (230 views)
Yeah, I worry about him [In reply to] Can't Post

however, for those of us that find the actor instantly unlikeable, that's not a bad thing for the character.

In my book, less is always more effective. Maybe Fry will play him as merely clever, than completely slimy and over-the-top.

I sometimes wish they didn't have to be so obvious with bad guys, just for movie audiences.

On a side note: It's almost too bad that Christopher Lee is the age he is. He's such a good Saruman (and a Tolkienite, to boot) that if this film had come first when he was not so frail, they could have really made a splendid 'descent to madness' as Gandalf put it in FOTR. I feel very sad that he's had such a great career, I hope he can live to see the rest of his work.


Feb 1 2013, 10:30pm

Post #29 of 33 (219 views)
The Problem with Stephen Fry [In reply to] Can't Post

is that he is so well-known. I am going to have a hard time looking at him and not hearing, "Miss Post, Miss Post. I'm engorgingly in love with you." Wish PJ had chosen a less well-known actor for the Master of Laketown.


Feb 1 2013, 11:38pm

Post #30 of 33 (220 views)
It is odd that he went with someone well known. [In reply to] Can't Post

But maybe they thought his fame was limited. In the UK, he's very well known, but in the US he's more of a niche celebrity (remember, most Americans know Hugh Laurie for "House," and have no idea he does comedy).

However, for some reason I'm thinking that Fry was in NZ for some other reason, and PJ said "Hey, want to be in 'The Hobbit'?" Like a lark. I may be remembering this absolutely wrong.

Tol Eressea

Feb 2 2013, 8:25am

Post #31 of 33 (199 views)
No, you're quite right! [In reply to] Can't Post

He was out there discussing the Dambusters' remake he is doing with PJ...

"Choosing Trust over Doubt gets me burned once in a while, but I'd rather be singed than hardened."
Æ Victoria Monfort

morgul lord

Feb 3 2013, 8:56pm

Post #32 of 33 (172 views)
I don't think he's very well known in N. America [In reply to] Can't Post

I live in Canada, and I only know him because I loved Blackadder as a kid.


Feb 4 2013, 1:49am

Post #33 of 33 (238 views)
Blackadder alone makes him okay by me. [In reply to] Can't Post

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I live in Canada, and I only know him because I loved Blackadder as a kid.

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