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I nominate you to finish the poem.

SirDennisC
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Feb 1 2013, 4:34pm


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I nominate you to finish the poem. [In reply to] Can't Post

Good thoughts... I really appreciate where you and Eruonen have gone with this. Just some additional thoughts that I may not be committed to for all time:

The idea of a mythology for "England only" is perhaps a tidge misguided (though not a profoundly bad idea) because the English didn't just appear on the scene from nowhere... they were a mishmash of indigenous islanders and all the other peoples who invaded or simply settled in the British Isles prior to the sense of nationhood called English emerged.

If I follow the reasoning behind the Arthur legends picking up where the Sil leaves off, it is to trace English-ness to a source previously unknown; that is not Roman, Welsh, Pict, Franc, Gaul, Saxon and so on. I can see how Tolkien, as he matured, might have abandoned the project as his intentions might have been misconstrued as promoting racial purity.

On the other hand, if the Sil et al were cast as mythologies that imparted the spark of English-ness to the historical cultural that produced the Arthur legends and present day England... well that seems a less risky proposition.

Subject User Time
The Fall of Arthur by JRR Tolkien SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Jan 27 2013, 3:25am
    Arthur, we never knew ye squire Send a private message to squire Jan 27 2013, 6:07am
    There's an entire book devoted to the idea that Arthuriana underlies Tolkien's legendarium. N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Jan 27 2013, 6:53am
        Quite SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Jan 27 2013, 10:53pm
    Well well Radagast-Aiwendil Send a private message to Radagast-Aiwendil Jan 27 2013, 9:10pm
        What Radagast-Aiwendil said Fredeghar Wayfarer Send a private message to Fredeghar Wayfarer Jan 28 2013, 10:23pm
            Just a thought, but if we are to imagine the intersection Eruonen Send a private message to Eruonen Jan 30 2013, 8:00pm
            I nominate you to finish the poem. SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Feb 1 2013, 4:34pm
    is it in Old English?// elevorn Send a private message to elevorn Jan 28 2013, 3:46pm
        Not according to the link NEB posted SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Jan 28 2013, 6:02pm
            "His bed was barren; there black phantoms" N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Jan 29 2013, 6:46am
                Sometimes I look at stuff I wrote yesterday SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Jan 29 2013, 3:09pm

 
 
 

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