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Thoughts on 3D 24 fps IMAX vs. 48 fps
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Tintallë
Gondor


Jan 25 2013, 5:46am

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Yes, some of it was for the Red Epic camera [In reply to] Can't Post

but some was for 3D and some was also for the HFR, which refers to the shooting speed, not the projection speed. The makeup artists and wardrobe makers had to choose their materials and fabrics to allow for the much sharper images recorded by the HFR format.

Tami Lane noted that "48 frames for makeup is a nightmare. It just exposes everything, all of our little tricks that we used to get away with with 35 mm, all of our work is under a huge microscope." And Dan Hennah talked about having to use real hair for the same reason. There's a video blog about it somewhere - it covers all 3 aspects: the Epic camera, 3D and HFR.


malla
Bree


Jan 26 2013, 1:31pm

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thoughts on various formats for The Hobbit AUJ [In reply to] Can't Post

So far I've seen the film in most of the formats...what I haven't seen is IMAX HFR 3D. I don't think any theaters within a 50 mile radius of me had it in that format.

I've seen it twice in 2D. Two things good about this is a) it's cheaper and b) you don't need special glasses.

I've seen it four times in regular 3D. I like 3D better, love stuff flying at me...lol. (no matter how many times I see the Hobbit...I will always blink when the flaming pine cone comes flying at me Blush)

I went to the Franklin Institute in Philadelphia to see it in their IMAX. It is a 'true' IMAX, with a 4 1/2 story high surround screen w/ surround sound. I loved the size...huge screen is really awesome. However, I actually didn't like the curved screen. The screen is like sitting inside a white globe....curving up as well as around. This, to me, distorted the picture a bit. I am glad that I went to see it there....but do not think I will ever go back again for a major motion picture show.

I've seen it three times in 3D HFR. Loved it!! My theater dropped the HFR a while ago, but there is a theater about 45 minutes from me that is still playing it in that format and I may go there sometime this week. Would like to see it at least one more time in that format. Everything appears so much crisper. Watching the eagle fly at this rate was wonderful.

The other 24 times I've seen The Hobbit AUJ has been in IMAX 3D. I have been a fan of this format for years. I will always choose the IMAX 3D over regular 3D and 2D. I hope my theater gets the next two films in IMAX 3D HFR....that would be awsome. Guess I should be suggesting that now....put the idea in the managers heads...Wink

Tenna' ento lye omenta,
Malla

(This post was edited by malla on Jan 26 2013, 1:33pm)


Kimtc
Rohan


Jan 26 2013, 3:30pm

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I lost track of how many times you've seen it! [In reply to] Can't Post

That is amazing--I've seen it eight times, and could barely find the time in my schedule. It's a long movie!

None of our nearby IMAX theatres had it is 3D HFR, just regular 3D. I'm not sure they will for the next one, either. I guess they just don't want to spend the money. But the number of times I would see it would probably make up for their cost, because I think it would be so awesome...


Kassandros
Rohan


Jan 26 2013, 3:41pm

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What do you like about IMAX 3D more than RealD 3D? [In reply to] Can't Post

Just curious what you like about seeing films in IMAX 3D compared to regular (RealD) 3D. What do you feel the advantages are?

all we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us...


Old Toby
Gondor


Jan 26 2013, 4:23pm

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What's trifecta vision eh, precious? What's trifecta? [In reply to] Can't Post

Oh, sorry...Gollum slipped in there. But to my quesiton: what exactly is trifecta vision? I would LOVE to see AUJ in IMAX 3D HFR!! Unfortunately our IMAX theater here only is showing it in regular 3D (24 fps), so I haven't bothered to go.

I've seen it 12 times so far...all in 3D HFR except one time in regular 2D (meh...it was nice, but not in the same league as the 3D HFR IMO). Maybe if I had seen it in 2D first, I would have liked it better that way. In any case, at least it is still being shown here in 3D HFR in one (and only one) theater. I'm taking a couple of friends who haven't seen it yet (!!) and they can't go to the 3D HFR shows because of the times they are now showing them (only twice a day), so we have to go to a regular 2D show. I feel really disappointed, and think my friends won't get the right experience of the movie in 2D. sigh. Well, I do intend to go again the next day...in 3D HFR! Smile (I think I've got The Hobbit Sickness!)

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Kassandros
Rohan


Jan 26 2013, 4:30pm

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Recommending a verison to friends. [In reply to] Can't Post

My basic recommendation is to see it in 2D first and then 3D HFR, but most non-hardcore fans aren't going to see it twice. It's a dilemma.

all we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us...


malla
Bree


Jan 26 2013, 5:55pm

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how many times? 34 so far.... [In reply to] Can't Post

and hope to keep going until it finally leaves the theaters....which looks like that is happening too soon for me...

I'm retired....so that gives me some time. I'm a quilter...and should be working on quilts for grandkids and for various charities that I donate to (cancer treatment centers, children hospitals, etc) but have only done some...but did finish a granddaughters quilt today...so tonight...well maybe # 35. The quilting will pick up very soon.

Cost for movies....let's just say that I've been saving gift cards that I've received for birthdays, Mother's days, Christmas', etc, for the past two years. Those, plus a few free passes I've gotten from my theater when I've attended movies and they had 'technical difficulties' (hey, even the new digital projectors have trouble sometimes) they sure have helped keep down costs. Have a few gift cards that I recently found buried in a junk drawer and forgot I had gotten long ago. So I have 5 more of those left to use up.
..........Not sure what I'm going to do in December when the next one comes out....but I'll figure it out.Tongue

Tenna' ento lye omenta,
Malla


malla
Bree


Jan 26 2013, 6:03pm

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why IMAX 3D over regular Real 3D ?? [In reply to] Can't Post

I love the larger IMAX screen. I've notice that when watching the movie on the smaller screens, you actually miss some of things seen on big screens. It's mostly stuff that is on the top and bottom of the screen that you miss on smaller screens. And just the fact that it's bigger makes it better for me.

Kinda like watching a full screen DVD compared to wide screen. Some stuff on the sides are chopped off the full screen version, which I find annoying.

Tenna' ento lye omenta,
Malla


Kimtc
Rohan


Jan 26 2013, 7:46pm

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I bow before you... [In reply to] Can't Post

Would that I had control of my time and destiny that I could go see AUJ every day. My family might have me committed.

At this point, though, I would hope the theater would start to comp you, like a casino.


Ruxendil_Thoorg
Grey Havens


Jan 27 2013, 2:23pm

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12 times and counting, wow! [In reply to] Can't Post

I was referring to this post . I modified "trifecta of fabulousness" to "trifecta-vision" to mean IMAX 3D HFR.

CoolSmile

Enjoy your further viewings, Old Toby Smile

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Kimtc
Rohan


Jan 28 2013, 1:30am

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I like that better! [In reply to] Can't Post

Should be trademarked! If we hear it used anywhere, we'll know where they found it.


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I was referring to this post . I modified "trifecta of fabulousness" to "trifecta-vision" to mean IMAX 3D HFR.

CoolSmile

Enjoy your further viewings, Old Toby Smile



Gollum1
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Feb 5 2013, 3:08am

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2D & HFR (continued) [In reply to] Can't Post

Today we saw The Hobbit in the 48 HFR, (we found a theater nearby where was showing in that format), and we really enjoyed it.

Several film critics did not care for the 48 HRF format because the flatness of the background in some scenes was very evident. I believe they referred to it as “soap opera look”, where in some cases you can detect that there is a backdrop or props in the foreground.

For instance, we have a LCD TV, and I am used to that effect. If I turn the “auto motion blur” (blurring of faces in action scenes) setting to on, I get the “soap opera” effect. However, if I set the “auto motion blur” setting to off, the scenes with sets look real but the action scenes are blurry. We have the setting in between the two to compromise. My point is, unless I make an effort of specifically looking for it, I have gotten used to ignoring the discrepancy.

I just wish PJ would go back to using “forced perspective” in scenes where two characters of different heights (hobbits, dwarves, elves, etc.), are in the same room. From what I’ve read, he decided to forgo filming those scenes in favor of using “blue or green” screens.

The bottom line is I enjoyed the HRF format immensely. When the Desolation of Smaug comes out in December, I am torn in which format, 2D or 3D HRF, to see it. Maybe we will see it twice, and flip a coin to let fate decide which format is first.

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