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The Master of Laketown

Radagast-Aiwendil
Gondor


Jan 23 2013, 10:10pm

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Although there are some pictures of the Master online, I've yet to see him discussed-what do you think of his appearance? Are you looking forward to seeing Stephen Fry in the role? How do you think he will be portrayed?

Here is a pic of Fry as the Master for those who have not already seen:
http://www.tumblr.com/...ster%20of%20laketown

"These are Gundabad Wargs! They will outrun you!"

"THESE are Rhosgobel Rabbits! I'd like to see them try...."



Aragalen the Green
Gondor


Jan 23 2013, 10:18pm

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He looks like a greasy sleazy smarmy bloated bureaucrat! Stephen Fry is absolutely fabulous, I'm really looking forward to his portrayal as the Master of Laketown. The article also mentions Alfrid (I've been wondering who that was) as his "conniving civil servant".

There it is: dwarves are not heroes, but calculating folk with a great idea of the value of money; some are tricky and treacherous and pretty bad lots; some are not, but are decent enough people like Thorin and Company, if you don't expect too much.


Rostron2
Gondor


Jan 23 2013, 10:23pm

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I'd have to see how they scripted him [In reply to] Can't Post

He's beginning to look like the Great Goblin or Grima to me for some reason. It will be interesting to see how much he gets into the action to rabble rouse against the dwarves bringing the dragon down upon them, and how much influence he has with the elves as well. Fry certainly has the skills to be a politician in the movies remaining. I just hope he's got some kind of appeal that isn't all bad, until he really gets greedy. Hopefully he's going to have great oration skills or something, so he can sway his followers and anyone that doesn't like the dwarves.


Aragalen the Green
Gondor


Jan 23 2013, 10:27pm

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He must have some appeal [In reply to] Can't Post

otherwise he wouldn't be the Master! Maybe he got his position through bribes and blackmail. I bet he overcharges the Wood-elves.

There it is: dwarves are not heroes, but calculating folk with a great idea of the value of money; some are tricky and treacherous and pretty bad lots; some are not, but are decent enough people like Thorin and Company, if you don't expect too much.


Radagast-Aiwendil
Gondor


Jan 23 2013, 10:32pm

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Depends what you mean by appeal [In reply to] Can't Post

In terms of appeal to the people of lake-town, he was probably quite a good leader when he was elected but he eventually turned into this miser type who began to only care about money and himself.

In terms of an appeal to the film audience (us) I expect a lot of that is relying on the casting of Fry himself-he's about as fascinating a person as one can imagine, I suppose. Maybe Fry will bring a gentler, more kindly nature to the guy (so that he doesn't turn into another Denethor!)

"These are Gundabad Wargs! They will outrun you!"

"THESE are Rhosgobel Rabbits! I'd like to see them try...."



Rostron2
Gondor


Jan 23 2013, 10:45pm

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I meant he would be viewed as wise and a leader by the people of Laketown. Certainly he has the friendship of Thranduil and the commerce routes he created. Of course, they aren't going to have time to go into broad economics and socio-political stories, but it can be inferred in a number of ways.

As for what Fry will do with the character, I have no idea. Most of the characters I've seen him as are pompous asses, in a comic sort of way.


Avnar
Lorien


Jan 23 2013, 11:20pm

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I think he will be another one of those characters that PJ goes overboard with!

Even his "look" is stupid... You could have just used Fry as he is.


Kimtc
Rohan

Jan 24 2013, 1:04am

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Similarly, I could never understand why Theoden would have kept an obvious slimeball like Grima around (even before Theoden's takeover by Saruman). As conceived by PJ, Grima was really grotesque. I know you have to telegraph that to the audience, but it can get a bit obvious.

I always pictured the Master of Laketown as just a fat cat type, someone who had been in politics too long.


Carne
Tol Eressea

Jan 24 2013, 1:27am

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I'd much rather have him look like he does rather than Fry in a fat suit and nothing else // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


The Mitch King
Rohan


Jan 24 2013, 4:38am

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Looks awesome! I cannot wait to see Fry's performance! His design is very nice, he looks like a nasty sleazy politician!!!


Angharad73
Rohan

Jan 24 2013, 6:07am

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I agree with everyone who said that he looks like a sleazy bureaucrat. I find it actually quite an interesting look, but I have to wait to see how he acts before I can form a real opinion. But I do love Stephen Fry, so I'm looking forward to his part in the story.


Súlimë
Rivendell


Jan 24 2013, 8:00am

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I was hoping... [In reply to] Can't Post

that he would look a bit subtler, and more 'sophisticated', so the audience won't know what to think when they first meet him.

And to be honest, he isn't THAT evil -- at least he should look a little bit respectable, IMO.


Rostron2
Gondor


Jan 24 2013, 5:43pm

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Well... [In reply to] Can't Post

We have politicians in the US that look very much like him. Fat, puffy faced types that never work for anyone but themselves. I'd say he's not so far from Mitch McConnell, he just dresses differently.


Cave Troll
Rivendell

Jan 26 2013, 10:32am

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I'm a bit disapponted (but not surprised) they went the direction of full-blown caricature.

 
 

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