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irreality
Bree
Jan 24, 6:53pm
Views: 39
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There is fair use and there is stealing
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"Again, do you find the person on the other forum here who shared his re-edit of the FotR prologue with remixed Howard Shore music to be "morally reprehensible?" Or do you only criticize this because you don't agree with the opinions of the people who edited it?"
Quickly:
Taking 10 minutes of a 3 hour movie and remixing it? Fair use.
Taking 2 hours of a 2:30 hour movie and remixing it? Not fair use.
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Longer:
There are four criteria for the free repurposing of a copyrighted work not to be a copyright violation. These are the criteria for fair use. A "fan edit" would fail 3 of them.
One is: what are you doing with it? Are you making something new (transformative) or just a different copy of the same (derivative)? If the latter, it is not fair use. Making a music video or analysis of a scene is transformative. Making a slightly different version of the original is derivative.
The second is not relevant, since it concerns the distinction between facts and fiction/published and unpublished/public domain/etc.
The third: percentage of work used. A Fan Edit will contain a significant portion of the work, then it is not fair use. A short clip of a movie can be fair use.
The fourth is effect on market value. It pertains to whether if the particular derivative work, if widespread, would impact the market of the original. A clip of the prologue would not impact the market for the original, because it is not the complete movie. Even if many clips are popular and available, people would still watch the movie. Fan edits are different. Although one particular fan edit might not catch anyone's interest, if this were widespread allowed, fans could just distribute their own versions and impact sales of the original.
"I don't see you spending a similar amount of posts hating on the people who are distributing intact copies of the film. "
Some things are too obvious to be worth mentioning.
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AUJ short cut
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isaac
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Jan 22, 5:16pm
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The movie is what it is.
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Owain
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Jan 22, 5:24pm
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Well I find the movi quite interesting I mean PJ´S
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isaac
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Jan 22, 5:36pm
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No there is no comparison in your argument.
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Owain
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Jan 22, 5:47pm
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*applause* well said //
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Rostron2
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Jan 22, 6:11pm
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Comparing apples and oranges
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stoutfiles
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Jan 22, 6:14pm
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I´m agree
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isaac
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Jan 22, 6:22pm
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Not apples...
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bborchar
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Jan 22, 6:24pm
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Who is the apple?
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egret
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Jan 22, 6:27pm
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the same "level" of respect but in dfferent areas maybe?
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isaac
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Jan 22, 6:34pm
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Good point
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Rostron2
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Jan 22, 6:28pm
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I agree.
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Owain
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Jan 22, 7:33pm
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Time invested at a guess
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LordMaximus
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Jan 23, 2:24am
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No
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macfalk
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Jan 23, 10:20am
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Nope
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stoutfiles
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Jan 23, 1:48pm
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Jackson had the rights to adapt Tolkien...
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bborchar
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Jan 23, 2:57pm
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Yes, he should.
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Owain
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Jan 23, 4:55pm
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What's wrong with fans making their own version?
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Kassandros
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Jan 23, 7:14pm
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I don't have a problem with fans having fun.
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Owain
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Jan 23, 7:42pm
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Because it's nonsense...
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bborchar
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Jan 23, 10:01pm
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Do you have any evidence at all it's being labelled as the full film?
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Kassandros
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Jan 23, 10:12pm
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Sad Kermit is a parody...
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bborchar
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Jan 23, 10:32pm
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You need to look up what plagarism is.
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Kassandros
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Jan 23, 10:56pm
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Go to my post...
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bborchar
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Jan 23, 11:18pm
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There is fair use and there is stealing
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irreality
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Jan 24, 6:53pm
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I agree 100%
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Radagast-Aiwendil
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Jan 22, 7:44pm
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and...
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Rostron2
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Jan 22, 10:51pm
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That sounds like a terrible movie
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Arthael
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Jan 22, 5:30pm
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huh?
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stoutfiles
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Jan 22, 5:43pm
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This point...
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bborchar
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Jan 22, 5:55pm
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Most the Dwarves barely even had lines in the book
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Arthael
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Jan 22, 6:25pm
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To each their own
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Rostron2
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Jan 22, 5:32pm
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I agree
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elevorn
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Jan 22, 6:02pm
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I wonder...
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bborchar
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Jan 22, 5:37pm
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Why would you cut the misty mountains song?
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irreality
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Jan 22, 5:45pm
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With all respect
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isaac
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Jan 22, 6:14pm
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Sounds meh.
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LordotRings93
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Jan 23, 12:09am
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You heretic!
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bborchar
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Jan 23, 12:15am
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;)
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LordotRings93
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Jan 23, 3:29pm
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Proof reading?
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Agrippah
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Jan 23, 1:31am
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That actually sounds like a horrible movie
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Súlimë
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Jan 23, 3:18am
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adaptations... and different mediums
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swordwhale
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Jan 23, 7:12am
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Short version of movie
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Eowyn3
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Jan 23, 3:27am
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Cool
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Grant
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Jan 23, 3:59am
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ok i had a problem with my keyboard, sorry
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isaac
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Jan 23, 5:24am
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I think I'll pass
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macfalk
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Jan 23, 10:18am
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Fans re-cutting a movie
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 23, 2:18pm
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Can only say that I disagree
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Wielder of Anduril
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Jan 23, 6:23pm
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