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Aunt Dora Baggins

Jan 23 2013, 6:21pm

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I have to admit [In reply to] Can't Post

that there's a part of me that's really narcissistic. I try to keep it i check in public, but that part of me enjoyed the Black-Hole-Sue aspect of the story (a term I got from tvtropes)

The only stylistic thing that's bothering me about Carriger's book is that she sometimes has her characters use words that have changed meaning since the time the story happens, and they use the modern meaning. Like "mad" or "nice'. It always jars me. But other than that I'm loving it.

"For DORA BAGGINS in memory of a LONG correspondence, with love from Bilbo; on a large wastebasket. Dora was Drogo's sister, and the eldest surviving female relative of Bilbo and Frodo; she was ninety-nine, and had written reams of good advice for more than half a century."
"A Chance Meeting at Rivendell" and other stories

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Tol Eressea

Jan 23 2013, 6:23pm

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Any time a Pratchett fan says someone reminds them of him, I pay attention [In reply to] Can't Post

Ahh - this is the Parasol Protectorate series that's been mentioned here a lot.

*Marks it in Goodreads as "want to read"*

Thanks -


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Aunt Dora Baggins

Jan 23 2013, 6:25pm

Post #28 of 37 (159 views)
Elucidate, please. [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm not getting Lucy/Ethel, and I'm curious.

Yes, I love Lord Akeldama too <3

Thanks for the good wishes. I think I've turned the corner on the cold.

"For DORA BAGGINS in memory of a LONG correspondence, with love from Bilbo; on a large wastebasket. Dora was Drogo's sister, and the eldest surviving female relative of Bilbo and Frodo; she was ninety-nine, and had written reams of good advice for more than half a century."
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Grey Havens

Jan 23 2013, 6:55pm

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I thought Carriger filled in the events from the first book sufficiently well, but there were some stylistic bits that got to be rather annoying after a while (I annoy easily---occupational hazard Unsure) and I so disliked the ending I haven't read any more in the series.

They have their charming moments, certainly, and remind me very, very much of Elizabeth Peters' Amelia Peabody series.

Does the annoying style also remind you of the Amelia Peabody series? Or are you saying they are similar other than the annoying stylistic bits?

As a huge fan of Peters, I would be curious to read something similar.

I'm actually rereading "Crocodile on the Sandbank" at present, I was in the mood for something familiar and light and much-loved -by-me.

Lily Fairbairn

Jan 23 2013, 7:34pm

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I love the Peters series, don't get me wrong [In reply to] Can't Post

It's just that Carriger's characters (there's a bit of a tongue-twister) sound very much like Amelia and Emerson with paranormal elements. So it's not that I find the Peters books annoying, it's that I feel Carriger's mimicry of them is a bit annoying, because I think she's a good enough author to have established her own voice.

If you're looking for something similar to the Peters books, then by all means, try Carriger!

IMHO, Carriger was also channeling Jane Austen's comedies-of-manners, which, also IMHO, wore a bit thin at times, in that I felt the plot was too often secondary to the manners (unlike Austen, where often the plot IS the manners, if you see what I mean Crazy )

And I repeat, I strongly disliked the ending, but YMMV, of course.

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Tol Eressea

Jan 23 2013, 7:35pm

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Yes and no... [In reply to] Can't Post

I don't have the book on me at the moment, so I can't list any specific passages, but there's definitely a number of shifts in tense, sometimes at multiple times in a paragraph or sentence. It doesn't happen very often, but often enough to be noticed. Like I said, it mightb e the copy of it I have, or maybe it's intentional, but right now I'm having trouble discerning which. Tongue

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Jan 23 2013, 7:42pm

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Lincoln: The Biography of a Writer [In reply to] Can't Post

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AlassŽa Eruvande

Jan 23 2013, 8:14pm

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Well, ***spoilers*** [In reply to] Can't Post

It's been close to a year since I read the last book, and, I can't even remember the main character's name! Blush I think the Lucy/Ethel vibe is more prominent in the later books. Stop reading now if you don't want to be spoiled.


In one of the books, I think it's the fourth one, she finds herself inside a rampaging automaton octopus, and her pregnancy nearly to term. In another, she's up in a dirigible and somebody is dangling precariously from it. (Gosh, my memory is bad. I can't remember if it's the heroine or her friend who does the dangling! Blush)

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Jan 23 2013, 8:18pm

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as you know I'm easily annoyed too [In reply to] Can't Post

Still, I made it to book four of the Parasol Protectorate before my annoyance with Carriger's self-conscious archness and my bete noir, her tendency to tell the reader what to think, got the best of me.

I noticed her tendency to use terms incorrectly as well. She seems to think a pelisse is a form of negligee, for instance. And she really, really needs someone who actually speaks French to correct hers.

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Grey Havens

Jan 23 2013, 9:25pm

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OK, thanks! [In reply to] Can't Post

It sounds like it would be worth a try. Maybe not the second one with the annoying ending, to get started with... Smile

Grey Havens

Jan 24 2013, 2:39am

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Only the Daniel Craig one// [In reply to] Can't Post


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Lily Fairbairn

Jan 24 2013, 3:16pm

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You have me intrigued now [In reply to] Can't Post

I see there's a free Kindle download of Kidnapped---I'll get it for my ereader and see what I think is going on with the shifts in tense.

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