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Arthael
Rivendell
Jan 21, 10:58pm
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i agree with your hubby on almost every account
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I'm a strange breed. I'm an "adaption"-firster. I started with the Hobbit cartoon at 6 and became obsessed. When I was 7 my uncle gave me the Mind's Eye radio production, which made me even more obsessed. I read the hobbit in 5th grade I believe. Then saw Fellowship when I was 13. Again, obsessed. Read the trilogy before TTT came out. I've always been fond of the adaptations, and in some ways I think they improve upon their source material. Granted, more often than not, Tolkien got it right the first thing, but there are moments in the Hobbit cartoon and in the LotR films that I believe were handled better than the books.
My reactions to his comments:
1. Absolutely 100% agree. The spiritual undertones of LotR, both film and book, give it a whole deeper layer than the Hobbit never really touches. This is something that I haven't seen mentioned anywhere, and it didn't even hit me until you mentioned it. Fate, death, courage, love for one's neighbor, the afterlife, hope.....these might be mentioned by name in the Hobbit, but I'd hardly call them themes. But for me personally, RotK is a deeply spiritual film (although it is not in any way "religious").
2. you skipped 2 ;)
3. Freeman's "jerky" acting gets on my nerves more than it does for most people. I still like him, but I would have preferred more of the subtle Arther Dent/John Watson- Freeman. I've heard a lot of his over-the-top performance was requested by Jackson.
4. Most of my favorite parts were the LotR-inspired ones. Although the Dwarves song was marvelous and easily a highlight. While being firmly rooted in The Hobbit, it does share the gravity of a LotR moment.
5. That's because it is. Tolkien wrote a story for children, and then basically re-wrote it with his larger legendarium in mind. This is painfully obvious in the first chapter (AUJ vs. Fellowship) but as far as plot points go this reaction should diminish as the story progresses. it's very true that Tolkien's books follow the same physical path across the map for the first leg of the journey.
6. I'll disagree there, I enjoyed the Dwarves a lot. Although that's probably because I'm already familiar with them.
7. Borimir's death is an emotional pinnacle of the film trilogy, but there's nothing to compare to it until the end of The Hobbit. The aftermath of the Bo5A will hopefully pluck those same heartstrings. Nothing Jackson can really do about it til then!
8. I enjoyed the goblin king, but I thought Radagast's comedy was not just over the top, but totally forced. However, his "serious" moment telling Gandalf about the darkness of Dol Guldur was pretty fantastic IMO and "rescued" my interpretation of his character. I can't wait to see more of him!
9. Eh, can't really fault him for thinking the Dwarves don't stand out. They don't when compared to a normal movie, but compared to Tolkien's writing they're full on celebrities. Again, if I wasn't already familiar with the book and the characters I'd prob feel the same way.
10. Eh, i thought it was comically naive, but i understand why it could be annoying.
11. To each his own ;)
As for the eagles: Tolkien wrote us all in a corner there. Same Deus Ex Machina every darn time! If I wasn't so dedicated to the source material, I'd be bored as all-get-out with them by now. I will say, however, that their appearance in AUJ was probably the "coolest" and most striking visually.
In the end, they're just different things. As much as I wanted "Before LotR" I'm still happy with "The Hobbit" overall. I realize that it's a children's story, and while I like that Jackson has darkened it some, I appreciate that it has a lighter tone. And when I eventually watch them in order, it'll be a nice transition across 6 films where (hopefully) it gets better with every installment! LotR will always be the epic, gritty sequel!
"There are no safe paths in this part of the world. Remember you are over the Edge of the Wild, and in for all sorts of fun wherever you go."
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A fan and a non-book-reader walk into a movie...
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weaver
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Jan 21, 7:14am
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Totally fell for the post title
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Starling
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Jan 21, 7:40am
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and one more thing...
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swordwhale
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Jan 21, 8:14am
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Hobbit
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swordwhale
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Jan 21, 8:09am
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my partner hasn't read the books and she loved it
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lurtz2010
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Jan 21, 10:11am
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I went...
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The Mitch King
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Jan 21, 10:16am
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Went with my gf first time then friend second time
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imin
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Jan 21, 12:01pm
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My second viewing
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Rosie-with-the-ribbons
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Jan 21, 12:52pm
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Reason for quest
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arithmancer
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Jan 21, 3:02pm
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Probably coming from the friend
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Rosie-with-the-ribbons
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Jan 21, 3:33pm
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Non-book reader reaction
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arithmancer
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Jan 21, 2:50pm
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The non-readers had a different experience
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Gelir
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Jan 21, 2:57pm
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I have the exact same experience
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Elenorflower
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Jan 21, 3:25pm
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The problem is:
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macfalk
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Jan 21, 3:29pm
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I dont think its because LOTR came first
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Elenorflower
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Jan 21, 3:56pm
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Agree with you
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sevilodorf
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Jan 21, 4:33pm
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This is why we can't have nice things
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Rane
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Jan 21, 6:45pm
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I disagree
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LordMaximus
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Jan 21, 8:20pm
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I saw the movie with a friend the other day...
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bborchar
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Jan 21, 3:38pm
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Very interesting!
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Súlimë
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Jan 21, 3:41pm
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Let me have a go...
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BoromirOfWinterfell
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Jan 21, 4:20pm
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Interesting
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Old Toby
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Jan 21, 6:39pm
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Interesting comparisons.
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Roheryn
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Jan 21, 7:15pm
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First of all...
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Arannir
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Jan 21, 7:59pm
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Oh dear.
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Ataahua
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Jan 21, 8:14pm
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She already said there are too many of them to have them all survive :)))
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Arannir
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Jan 21, 8:31pm
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Here's my take
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Rostron2
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Jan 21, 8:32pm
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About Freeman
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Jax_Teller
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Jan 21, 9:38pm
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i agree with your hubby on almost every account
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Arthael
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Jan 21, 10:58pm
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