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The Hobbit and FOTR Extended.

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Jan 13 2013, 8:10pm

Post #1 of 10 (966 views)
The Hobbit and FOTR Extended. Can't Post

I decided to watch the beginning of the FOTR EE, and I realized that Bilbo doesn't have a clue as to where Frodo has gone, and was expecting him to answer the constant knocks on the door. However, in the Hobbit, Frodo clearly tells Bilbo where he is going. Bilbo even acknowledges that Gandalf will likely show up for his party, yet when he appears in FOTR, Bilbo acts as if he had no idea about it. The latter is pretty minor though. Bilbo acting surprised was, to me, a good moment in the film.

I find this a bit odd though. Is it because Peter Jackson doesn't follow the EE? Does he instead film with only the theatrical edition in mind?


Jan 13 2013, 8:12pm

Post #2 of 10 (545 views)
AUJ shows that Bilbo has started to develop a poor memory. [In reply to] Can't Post

That may well explain some of the inconsistencies. If there's another bookend scene at the end of TABA, then it might make more sense as well. Plus, he's in the middle of writing his book. Nothing would distract Bilbo during that.

(This post was edited by DanielLB on Jan 13 2013, 8:15pm)


Jan 13 2013, 8:13pm

Post #3 of 10 (535 views)
Probably not a plot hole [In reply to] Can't Post

Bilbo focuses so much on his book that he loses the passage of time and forgets that Frodo wasn't home. Who hasn't experienced something like that in their life, even if they're not 111 years old? And besides, even The Hobbit, the book, notes that Bilbo doesn't have a very good memory and needs to write things down.

(This post was edited by Lightice on Jan 13 2013, 8:14pm)


Jan 13 2013, 8:14pm

Post #4 of 10 (482 views)
Bilbo's forgotten that Frodo went out [In reply to] Can't Post

I mean, he forgot that it was the day of the party, so engrossed was he in his writing! He's still writing, so he doesn't want to answer the door, and he's become so lost in his thoughts and memories that he's forgotten Frodo's not in.

Then Manwė and Yavanna parted for that time, and Yavanna returned to Aulė; and he was in his smithy, pouring molten metal into a mould. 'Eru is bountiful,' she said. 'Now let thy children beware! For there shall walk a power in the forests whose wrath they will arouse at their peril.'

'Nonetheless they will have need of wood,' said Aulė, and he went on with his smith-work.

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Jan 13 2013, 8:15pm

Post #5 of 10 (471 views)
True! [In reply to] Can't Post

That could definitely be possible. Furthermore, it's really the only thing I noticed. I do assume that there will be a closing scene in TABA, so I'm looking forward to it.

(This post was edited by Velenor on Jan 13 2013, 8:18pm)


Jan 13 2013, 8:29pm

Post #6 of 10 (439 views)
No finger-pointing here. [In reply to] Can't Post

I do that too. My co-workers tells me they're going someplace, and two minutes later someone asks me where they are, and I haven't a clue. In fact, I forgot they left. It's called, "getting older". Tongue

Grey Havens

Jan 13 2013, 9:07pm

Post #7 of 10 (410 views)
forgetful throughout his writing in AUJ and FotR [In reply to] Can't Post

He even forgets the Ring is in his pocketsesssss and freaks out.

As Frodo says, "Bilbo's been a bit odd lately."


Jan 14 2013, 8:28am

Post #8 of 10 (219 views)
Which, I suppose, also carries on right until the end of ROTK [In reply to] Can't Post

When he asks to hold the Ring. Poor forgetful Bilbo.


Jan 14 2013, 1:55pm

Post #9 of 10 (179 views)
Also do you notice [In reply to] Can't Post

that he begins writing his book in AUJ with "A long time ago..." but then in the beginning of FOTR he takes out his pen and says "Now...where to BEGIN? Ah, yes! Concerning Hobbits..."


Jan 14 2013, 2:29pm

Post #10 of 10 (167 views)
You might find this read interesting [In reply to] Can't Post


I quite like the idea of switching/editing scenes around.


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