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Action with Elves in Mirkwood

Rostron2
Gondor


Jan 11 2013, 11:35pm

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The book describes how the elves were out hunting deer or similar animals in Mirkwood. However, I doubt they will take that route, with the dwarves blundering into their fairy ring multiple times. So, what will be the reason that the elves come across the dwarves (who apparently escape from the spiders right before their encounter with the elf patrol)?

It's pretty certain that it will have happened soon after the spider rescue by Bilbo, as evidence by the picture of Gloin covered in webbing being questioned and his family locket held by a presumably elven hand?



1. I favor that they might have been called out because of the goblin raiding party that came from the mountains, and continues to pursue the dwarves. They could be hunting spiders, but those are more incidental to the journey, and the dwarves are probably going to be lost when they get captured. This also give further credence to Thranduil being a bit upset at stirring up the orcs that pursue them into his domain. He's already upset that they won't tell him what they were doing in the forest.

2. Who will be leading the hunting party? Will we see Thranduil? Legolas & Tauriel? All of them?

3. If number 1 is correct, and it is orcs they are hunting, will we get to see any action? This was passed over in LOTR, where Haldir and Lorien elves wiped out a band of orcs pursuing from Moria, but it was cut from all versions. This might bring that idea back. Maybe it's a 'close call' but the elves don't know the dwarves are the target.


Thoughts?

-Rostron


Ardamírë
Valinor


Jan 12 2013, 12:13am

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What we already know... [In reply to] Can't Post

From the comic-con footage, we already know that Legolas and Tauriel are among the elves who capture the dwarves. To me, the fingers of the hand look rather slender, so perhaps it's Tauriel holding the picture. That would be my best guess.

I'd rather the dwarves not be continuously followed by the orcs. It works as it is in the book, no need to change it any more.

There's a sad sort of clanging from the clock in the hall and the bells in the steeple, too.
And up in the nursery an absurd little bird is popping out to say coo-coo (coo-coo, coo-coo).


Joe20
Lorien


Jan 12 2013, 12:29am

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I'm sure I read somewhere [In reply to] Can't Post

that it was Legolas that was holding the picture. And I hope it is since he is questioning Gimli's father.

But I could be misremembering Smile


(This post was edited by Joe20 on Jan 12 2013, 12:30am)


Rane
Bree


Jan 12 2013, 12:39am

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I haven't heard of this untill now [In reply to] Can't Post

I mean the comic con footage or a picture. Anyone have a link? (I feel like a terrible fan)

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Oleander Took
Rivendell


Jan 12 2013, 12:51am

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You may have read it here [In reply to] Can't Post

The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey Chronicles.”

http://art-of-the-dwarves.tumblr.com/...-for-the-hobbit-film

If all goes according to this book it is Legolas who is questioning Gloin


"There is nothing like looking, if you want to find something."


Rane
Bree


Jan 12 2013, 12:55am

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Ah, thanks! [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Ardamírë
Valinor


Jan 12 2013, 1:54am

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Oh I like that [In reply to] Can't Post

I think it's fitting for it to be Legolas! I like that a lot Smile

There's a sad sort of clanging from the clock in the hall and the bells in the steeple, too.
And up in the nursery an absurd little bird is popping out to say coo-coo (coo-coo, coo-coo).


Joe20
Lorien


Jan 12 2013, 4:06am

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Yep, that was it. Thanks [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Ave Moria
Rivendell


Jan 12 2013, 4:18am

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Great link [In reply to] Can't Post

Thanks for posting!!

-In the Darkness, a torch we hold-


Retro315
Rivendell

Jan 12 2013, 7:18am

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The transition in the novel from narrowly escaping spiders and only having mere seconds to catch their breath before being arrested by Wood-elves is broad enough that the Elves firing some action-packed arrows into a few more spiders won't be any sort of giant change in the narrative.

We know historically from the novels that the elves love all animals and though they hunt, it's more ritualistic - but they despise the spiders. Not that motivations always make it into film: in hindsight it stings a lot that Legolas entire motivation for the Fellowship Quest (penance, for losing Gollum) is traded for some inate bromance action with Aragorn. Though it's clear he's fond of Gandalf as well.


Neaniver
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Jan 12 2013, 5:59pm

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the elves [In reply to] Can't Post

Not being rude but you got it wrong, they are not out hunting deer, they are out having a picnic. If you want to say not I would prefer you read it your self, if I'm wrong I am sorry but I think I'm right.


Rostron2
Gondor


Jan 12 2013, 6:21pm

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That may be hunting jsut for ritual not killing... but [In reply to] Can't Post

There's a passage about hunting horns... yes, the fires and feasting is at night...later.

"...when they became aware of a dim blowing of horns in the wood and tghe sound as of dogs baying far off. Then they all fell silent; and as they sat it seemed they could hear the noise of a great hunt going by to the north of the path..."

This happens after the hart startles them at the boat crossing.


(This post was edited by Rostron2 on Jan 12 2013, 6:22pm)


Neaniver
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Jan 12 2013, 8:44pm

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Fair enough, but they actually run into the feasting not the hunting, so I guess we're both right.Wink


Oleander Took
Rivendell


Jan 12 2013, 10:25pm

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You're Welcome, [In reply to] Can't Post

Rane, Joe and Ave Moria glad you enjoyed it :)

Ardamírë I like it too, if in the end is like this it's going to be such a brilliant moment! We will know where the joke on Legolas is :) The first time he'll get to see his best friend


"There is nothing like looking, if you want to find something."


BlackCountry
Rivendell


Jan 13 2013, 1:19am

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That pic immediately reminds of [In reply to] Can't Post

Uriah Heep's debut album cover with the Late David Byron covered in cobwebs - the classic album being Very 'eavy, Very 'umble!! ;)



I do not want what it is not mine.... I only want what comes from within....

 
 

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