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AinurOlorin
Valinor
Jan 14, 10:55pm
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I don't have a huge problem with that idea, as long as they give some explanation
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Can't Post
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and allusion to his presence, and don't just make the sloppy mistake of having Moria here with no mention of him, and then having him pop up out of the black with a hasty "by the way, he was always here and he was still here the last time, but you just missed him. . . I guess you blinked!" I raise the East Gate though, in part because in the book he IS there, but also because there is definitely an unexplained and mighty glow inside that gate through it's entire depiction in the movie, and it is very reminiscent of the glow the Fellowship sees before when they first become fully aware of him, as a group, on the far side of The Dwarrowdelf. Which doesn't mean he was standing right at the gate. In the films, the glow of his Demon fires seems to cast light a long way off from his actual person, when he wants it to.
"Hear me, hounds of Sauron, Gandalf is here! Fly if you value your foul skins, I will shrivel you from tail to snout if you step within this circle!"
"Do not be to eager to deal out death in judgement. Even the very wise cannot see all ends."
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Yeah. . . that is almost certainly not standard variety fire glowing in The East Gate. . .Durin's Bane seems right.
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 11, 7:25am
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The Balrog
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JWPlatt
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Jan 11, 8:22am
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I know what you mean, and I have the same hopes as you do,
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 11, 8:56am
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I saw the glow both times i went
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imin
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Jan 11, 9:02am
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yeah it's a huge image
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Arthael
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Jan 11, 3:48pm
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come to think of it
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ryouko
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Jan 12, 5:16pm
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In the WETA Chronicles book
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DanielLB
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Jan 11, 9:05am
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I saw that too.
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 11, 9:07am
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There would be little point
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Lightice
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Jan 11, 11:46am
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That could still happen
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stoutfiles
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Jan 11, 1:43pm
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I don't see it happening...no way
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Rostron2
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Jan 11, 5:30pm
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Here you are wrong. This "creature", or rather this fell being, a Maia Demon
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 12, 2:39am
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The true nature and history of the Balrog is wholly irrelevant to the discussion.
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Lightice
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Jan 12, 4:52pm
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Not entirely true, dear sir
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 12, 6:00pm
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You would still be mistaken -- even further in the film continuity.
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Lightice
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Jan 12, 9:02pm
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Belligerent condecension aside,
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 12, 9:28pm
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It very much looks like DB.
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TFP
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Jan 11, 11:35am
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Right
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MorgolKing
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Jan 11, 2:29pm
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Exactly, that would be another continuity error. No Balrog needed.
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xxxyyy
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Jan 11, 5:14pm
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Agreed
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Ave Moria
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Jan 11, 3:11pm
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Did anyone notice that Thorin was wearing the
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Elenorflower
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Jan 11, 11:26pm
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Yes!
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Yva
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Jan 11, 11:33pm
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Are you thinking it's Bilbo's shirt?
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entmaiden
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Jan 11, 11:42pm
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I admit it occured to me in a flash of fan over-excitement
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Yva
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Jan 12, 12:43am
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By the way, why are we assuming Moria was not retaken after that battle?
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xxxyyy
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Jan 12, 2:39pm
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the dwarves retook Moria?
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MouthofSauron
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Jan 12, 5:55pm
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That is exactly what happened. You
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 12, 6:01pm
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that poster had my head spinning there for a sec
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MouthofSauron
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Jan 12, 7:34pm
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Lol. Yeah. All of our perspectives on how the films should unfold/ are unfolding,are at least somewhat
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 12, 8:11pm
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I've seen AUJ only once. Did they say that in the movie? (NT)
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xxxyyy
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Jan 13, 2:09am
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What you said is in the book, not the movie.
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xxxyyy
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Jan 13, 2:38am
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it is a victory nevertheless
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MouthofSauron
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Jan 13, 6:53pm
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WhAAAAAAAA? If they retook Moria. .. . .
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 12, 6:09pm
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Ah, Ok, then the question remains, why they did not establish their new home in Moria?
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xxxyyy
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Jan 13, 2:34am
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yes it could
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MouthofSauron
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Jan 13, 2:38am
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Then why is he there doing nothing?
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xxxyyy
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Jan 13, 2:48am
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I had thought about that. . . but I think one has to consider The Balrog further.
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 13, 8:29am
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Ok, so you have made up your own movie about the Balrog, what about the casual viewers?
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xxxyyy
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Jan 13, 2:58pm
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it boils down to speculation
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MouthofSauron
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Jan 13, 6:50pm
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Yes, but if there's a Balrog there...
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xxxyyy
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Jan 14, 12:59am
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But they don't really need to go into deep explanation. Sometimes a little can still convey a lot.
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 14, 2:19am
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Again, I think, movie wise, they have to enter deep into Moria.
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xxxyyy
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Jan 14, 5:23pm
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I don't have a huge problem with that idea, as long as they give some explanation
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 14, 10:55pm
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Whoa there.
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 13, 9:22pm
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Again, you have to excuse my poor English...
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xxxyyy
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Jan 14, 12:46am
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That wouldn't have to be inconsistent.
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 13, 8:14am
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its clearly the balrog....
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MouthofSauron
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Jan 12, 5:52pm
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