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Moria orcs and Lothlórien

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Jan 10 2013, 12:21am

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Moria orcs and Lothlórien Can't Post

I'm sure most are familiar with images such as this one:

Why didn't they film the battle/skirmish at Lórien?

Was it a full on battle or just a skirmish?

Here's some interesting videos:

Abandoned sequence pre-vis

Deleted scenes


Jan 10 2013, 2:10am

Post #2 of 8 (1233 views)
since there are photos of it... [In reply to] Can't Post

I presume it was filmed.

The question is more: why was it cut?

I think it was a skirmish with the Fellowship beset by orcs and the Lorien Elves showing up to join the fight.

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Jan 10 2013, 8:01am

Post #3 of 8 (1218 views)
One reason for leaving this out [In reply to] Can't Post

might be that we are often told that orcs avoid sunlight - and I think that would go double for Moria orcs - and this is obviously during daylight hours.
Plus, there had already been plenty of action in Moria; they may have felt that it was unnecessary. Better to change gears and focus on the mystery of Lothlorien.

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Jan 10 2013, 10:20am

Post #4 of 8 (1200 views)
This is what I always thought [In reply to] Can't Post

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might be that we are often told that orcs avoid sunlight - and I think that would go double for Moria orcs - and this is obviously during daylight hours.

But looking at their armour, and their helmets, I doubt they're exposed to much sunlight. That pesky first Orc blows my theory out the water though. Wink

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Jan 11 2013, 12:42am

Post #5 of 8 (1071 views)
thank you for that link [In reply to] Can't Post

to the deleted scenes video. Some there it's easy to see why the bit was cut.

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Jan 11 2013, 3:27am

Post #6 of 8 (1120 views)
Compositing? [In reply to] Can't Post

This is a production still shot, so if it didn't make the cut early on, it probably had not gone through any digital grading. They might have shot it in full sunlight, but would have changed the environment to evening or even dead of night if they wanted to.


Jan 11 2013, 7:36pm

Post #7 of 8 (1079 views)
That whole Aragorn vs. Sauron idea is laughable [In reply to] Can't Post

So glad they turned it into a troll.


Jan 11 2013, 7:56pm

Post #8 of 8 (1105 views)
It was filmed [In reply to] Can't Post

But didn't PJ say that they scrapped it in favor of the suspenseful & mysterious entrance into Lothlorien? I that being discussed somewhere in the EEs.

There's a sad sort of clanging from the clock in the hall and the bells in the steeple, too.
And up in the nursery an absurd little bird is popping out to say coo-coo (coo-coo, coo-coo).


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