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The view of the Lonely Mountain from the Carrock
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Dec 31 2012, 1:30am

Post #26 of 35 (292 views)
And I expect that is where it was originally [In reply to] Can't Post

But when the third film came about, they didn't want to lose their ending. Unfortunately, I do think it would have worked better to see it from the river on the barrel with Bilbo.

Aiya Eärendil Elenion Ancalima! Hail Eärendil, brightest of stars!


Dec 31 2012, 4:55pm

Post #27 of 35 (231 views)
Yes, an alteranate view from the Carrock would be the looming, dark and [In reply to] Can't Post

mysterious Mirkwood in the distance.


Dec 31 2012, 5:24pm

Post #28 of 35 (216 views)
I do think that would have been a better option.// [In reply to] Can't Post


There's a sad sort of clanging from the clock in the hall and the bells in the steeple, too.
And up in the nursery an absurd little bird is popping out to say coo-coo (coo-coo, coo-coo).


Dec 31 2012, 10:07pm

Post #29 of 35 (204 views)
Watching the signs ... [In reply to] Can't Post

Something else to note; if The Lonely Mountain can be seen from the high pass in the Misty Mountains, it can surely be seen from Mount Gundabad as well.


Dec 31 2012, 10:34pm

Post #30 of 35 (197 views)
What about Dol Guldur? / [In reply to] Can't Post


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Dec 31 2012, 10:39pm

Post #31 of 35 (193 views)
Not sure [In reply to] Can't Post

Not sure about Dol Guldur. It's nearly double the distance from Erebor as the northern peaks of the Misty Mountains, as well as being far lower in altitude above sea level, closer to the same starting point as Erebor itself, with all the vastness if Mirkwood between them.

While I surmise a 'decent chance' of seeing the location of Gundabad, and Azog looking out over the vastness of Wilderland, we'll just have to assume The Necromancer hears his news from spies, crows, Palantir-visions. Plus that's Gandalf's whole purpose - preventing him from taking advantage of the dragon-fall.

Tol Eressea

Jan 1 2013, 1:26am

Post #32 of 35 (182 views)
Don't get me wrong, i love the vistas too. [In reply to] Can't Post

Some of them are among my favorite shots in the films (the last shot of FotR, the last shot of TTT, the showdown at the Black Gate, Faramir and Frodo looking over Ithilien to Minas Tirith). And i really loved catching sight of The Lonely Mountain and the end of AUJ. But i also know to take some of them with a grain of salt, as they might be almost twice as far away as they appear.


Jan 2 2013, 5:57pm

Post #33 of 35 (161 views)
Is middle earth round or flat? // [In reply to] Can't Post



Jan 2 2013, 7:52pm

Post #34 of 35 (179 views)
At this time, after the breaking it is round. [In reply to] Can't Post

"During the downfall of Númenor, Arda was made round."


(This post was edited by Eruonen on Jan 2 2013, 8:00pm)

Grey Havens

Feb 11 2013, 3:54pm

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Funny [In reply to] Can't Post

My eight year old son finished reading "The Hobbit" last night. He has been reading a few pages each night before bedtime ever since the second time he saw the movie (his request, both re-watchign the movie, and starting the book). So, what he did want to discuss when he had finished? Why, the map of Middle Earth in the back of his book, and how it is that the Dwarves could see the Lonely Mountain at the end of AUJ. Laugh

He's been hiking, so I was able to remind him he has had similar experiences e. g. seeing Boston from a summit in New Hampshire's mountains.

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