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I guess we agree on the allusion, but we do not agree on the glow at the gate being the Balrog.

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Jan 4 2013, 12:45am


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I guess we agree on the allusion, but we do not agree on the glow at the gate being the Balrog. [In reply to] Can't Post

That would be an absolute mistake.
But I've already said that, when? four answers ago, so I guess it's fair to stop here, at least on my side.

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Why it is to be hoped that the fire in Moria was a Balrog allusion (however vague), and why more mention should be made of him in the course of these films. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Dec 30 2012, 7:14am
    Also of importance: The Continuity Factor. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Dec 30 2012, 7:15am
    Bravo Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Dec 30 2012, 7:25am
        Sauron is not Morgoth Mahtion Send a private message to Mahtion Dec 30 2012, 7:36am
            It isn't a matter of commanding. It is a matter of alliance. It is dubious that he could command Smaug. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Dec 30 2012, 7:51am
                Great Points Mahtion Send a private message to Mahtion Dec 30 2012, 8:13am
                    A note on Balrog's higher sentience, in reply to you and Herzogian AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Jan 2 2013, 5:23am
        I really hope so. Despite the short time he appears on screen AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Dec 30 2012, 7:41am
    And... The Mitch King Send a private message to The Mitch King Dec 30 2012, 7:36am
        This is my hope as to why they might have failed to do so (yet) and may be saving it for a latter scene AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Dec 30 2012, 8:04am
    You shall not pass to the hobbit trilogy! herzogian Send a private message to herzogian Dec 30 2012, 8:39am
        problems with that reasoning AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Dec 30 2012, 7:13pm
            Balrogging herzogian Send a private message to herzogian Dec 30 2012, 8:44pm
                As to what they can use/deduce. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Dec 30 2012, 11:03pm
            Sauron: the most prominently displayed dwarf in AUJ FlyingSerkis Send a private message to FlyingSerkis Dec 30 2012, 10:14pm
                Damn. See what too much typing can do? Or course I meant THORIN. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Dec 30 2012, 11:15pm
                    Underestimating the Feanorians Mahtion Send a private message to Mahtion Dec 31 2012, 1:43am
                        When I say they didn't fear them, I do not mean to say that even in the face of AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Dec 31 2012, 2:41am
                            Great treatise. Loving this thread! sharku Send a private message to sharku Dec 31 2012, 11:42am
                                Lol. There is a fine question. Not Eru, surely. Nor a Valar. Clearly Ainur. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Dec 31 2012, 11:18pm
                                    This thread Ave Moria Send a private message to Ave Moria Jan 1 2013, 1:52am
    I've nothing particular to add (you've said it all) but I'd love to see this and agree with you 100% that he should have some more backstory/screen time to develop Dwarf history// Radagast-Aiwendil Send a private message to Radagast-Aiwendil Dec 30 2012, 10:46am
    Not sure about that AT ALL... Balin should return to Moria and establish a "known" realm. xxxyyy Send a private message to xxxyyy Dec 30 2012, 6:02pm
        It becomes a continuity problem. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Dec 30 2012, 7:33pm
            Alot of good points on both sides... FrogmortonJustice65 Send a private message to FrogmortonJustice65 Dec 30 2012, 7:51pm
                It isn't so much an issue of "they brought up other tangentials, why not him" as, they have brought Moria, his dwelling, and a battle AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Dec 30 2012, 8:04pm
            I think the Balrog should stay in ancient history books, in old wizards' libraries. xxxyyy Send a private message to xxxyyy Jan 1 2013, 4:05am
                If he appears at all, sauget.diblosio Send a private message to sauget.diblosio Jan 1 2013, 4:31am
                    Again, seeing a glow means he IS right behind the door... which may be cool, but in the end, not at all. (NT) xxxyyy Send a private message to xxxyyy Jan 1 2013, 4:53pm
                You cannot link it to the darknes of the path, when the real issue is explicitly stated. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Jan 2 2013, 1:24am
                    No continuity error at all. The opposite. xxxyyy Send a private message to xxxyyy Jan 2 2013, 2:45am
                        Were that the case, Gandalf would not have worried, nor would he have AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Jan 2 2013, 5:17am
                            I am a purist of the book and the movies, and I do not mix them. xxxyyy Send a private message to xxxyyy Jan 2 2013, 6:11pm
                                You are willfully ignoring what is actually in that movie. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Jan 2 2013, 11:17pm
                                    Yes, that speech just state that Gandalf is concerned about the Balrog. xxxyyy Send a private message to xxxyyy Jan 3 2013, 3:28am
                                        Did I say anything about The Balrog hanging around at the door to greet them AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Jan 3 2013, 4:29am
                                            Yes, you only said that in the title of this thread... lol xxxyyy Send a private message to xxxyyy Jan 3 2013, 5:13pm
                                                You are mixing timelines and company's now. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Jan 3 2013, 9:28pm
                                                    I guess we agree on the allusion, but we do not agree on the glow at the gate being the Balrog. xxxyyy Send a private message to xxxyyy Jan 4 2013, 12:45am

 
 
 

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