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If Peter Jackson took his films seriously -then others would!
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Rostron2
Gondor


Jan 1 2013, 6:00pm

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Quote from Rolling Stone Magazine [In reply to] Can't Post

This is somewhat out of context with the argument here, what Jackson really means is that he's had to fight to do films his whole career. However, the quote is still somewhat revealing of his creative inner voice:

"I make movies for myself. I'm not somebody that has a great deal of interest in what the world wants to see."


Ardamírë
Valinor


Jan 1 2013, 6:12pm

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Regarding Jackson's quotation [In reply to] Can't Post

I do think a healthy degree of apathy is in order when making a film. Obviously, it's impossible to create a film that pleases everyone, so I don't think any director should go in with the idea of just doing what the audience wants. Who's to say what the audience wants?

However, it can't just be total apathy, especially when adapting from source material. I think it's important for any director to first take the material and try to tell the story as best as possible, while also making the movie they want. It's all about balance, IMO.

There's a sad sort of clanging from the clock in the hall and the bells in the steeple, too.
And up in the nursery an absurd little bird is popping out to say coo-coo (coo-coo, coo-coo).


Chainsaw Charlie
Bree


Jan 1 2013, 7:53pm

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He didn't miss the point. At all. [In reply to] Can't Post


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I think you have missed the point. The fact is, these films are classics of film history. They are remembered because they have all the hallmarks of lasting the test of time, ie, people love them. ...


The Hobbit is already being loved. Check audience reaction and returnees.


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My argument is that I really dont think TH will stand the test of time


Wrong. Your argument is a canard moving the goalposts. You challenged us to name ONE classic fantasy movie with silly stuff like a belch, and you were given more than one. His point is correct, as is mine: You can nitpick ANY classic movie to death, if you are cynical enough and so-inclined.

And since you ARE so-inclined, here's a comparison between Hobbit: AUJ and YOUR first "classic" selection, Legend, and the li'l bit about "ie people loving them"...

IMDB comparison:

LEGEND (1985)
Rating: 6.2/10 - 29408 votes

THE HOBBIT: AN UNEXPECTED JOURNEY (2012)
Rating: 8.4/10 - 143192 votes

You can also check the Rotten Tomatoes rating on Legend --- Positive reviews are 50% (hint: that's ROTTEN).


(This post was edited by Chainsaw Charlie on Jan 1 2013, 8:00pm)


cobalt358
Registered User

Jan 1 2013, 8:15pm

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i'm with you [In reply to] Can't Post

it's impossible to say right now if The Hobbit is going to stand the test of time, but i didn't feel that i was watching a classic when i saw it, not the same way i did when i saw LotR. just a bombastic, leave-your-brain-at-the-door, popcorn flick. not that there's not room for those, but it really didn't come across as anything amazing or memorable. there's still 2 movies to go so who can say where it's all going to end up, i personally can only hope it gets better.

this is a fan site anyway so dissenting opinions are always going to be in a minority, everyone is entitled to their opinion of course, though i really have a hard time seeing how anyone could say it's better than FotR, that really boggles my mind. the Transformers films made loads of money too, so just because AUJ is popular now doesn't mean a whole lot.

it seems that these days the measure of success is how many internet memes a film can generate.


Elenorflower
Gondor


Jan 1 2013, 10:49pm

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hi Cobalt [In reply to] Can't Post

yes It is sad but I think its true. The Hobbit will fade into nothing. LOTR has already stood up brilliantly over 10 years and thats like dog years, thats a a long time in film making. LOTR is still great to watch, and people hold it up as quality, but the Hobbit was too derivative even the music score seemed second hand.

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