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Dec 9 2012, 4:18pm

Post #51 of 59 (211 views)
Sorry I am not quite certain I get the question, but... [In reply to] Can't Post

Are you asking about the flash back to the battle at the gates of Moria ?
I already explained that but ok :)
Dwalin is telling the great battle. How Azog killed the king, how the dwarves were loosing the battle. Then Thorin step up and fight Azog but his shield is trown away and he is about to die. Then he takes a log of oak and defend himself with it. Bloking every stroke. He eventually cut the left arm of Azor who retreat from the battle. The tied is reversed. Thorin stands in the dawn sunlight with its oaken log and leads the dwarves to the victory. But the price for their victory his really heavy. There are a few dwarves left.
But this story is not told to explaine the origin of "oakenshield" . It's because Thorin is worried after they hear the screams of some orcs at night. And Balin says that Thorin's hatred for the orcs goes back very far...


Dec 9 2012, 4:23pm

Post #52 of 59 (171 views)
ok sir [In reply to] Can't Post

does it happen during the prologue?

Tol Eressea

Dec 9 2012, 4:26pm

Post #53 of 59 (163 views)
If we're awake enough [In reply to] Can't Post

my son and I may take your advice and hit Denny's. Wink

Arthur: What manner of man are you that can summon up fire without flint or tinder?
Tim: I... am an enchanter.
Arthur: By what name are you known?
Tim: There are some who call me... 'Tim'...?
Arthur: ...greetings, Tim the Enchanter.


Dec 9 2012, 4:27pm

Post #54 of 59 (165 views)
No [In reply to] Can't Post

It's later.
The prologue only deals with the fall of Dale/Erebor and the exode of the dwarves.
It takes place at night.
If you ever saw the pic with several dwarves standing and looking at the camera at night in the wild, with Bifur on the right. It's the final shot of the scene, where every dwarf realise who Thorin realy is.


Dec 9 2012, 4:33pm

Post #55 of 59 (160 views)
ok [In reply to] Can't Post

it seems you've seen the movie - sorry for the suspicion
but i'm pissed, that the nazgul-crypts were cut out.
i don't have much faith in this film!


Dec 9 2012, 4:41pm

Post #56 of 59 (158 views)
It's alright :) [In reply to] Can't Post

The Nazgul Crypt is not cut out, as far as I know...but pushed to film two.

Spoilers !!!

Gandalf is very intent on inspecting it, after the White Coucel, thanks to Galadriel...
And I suspect that film two will be heavy on Dol Guldur's plots...
With only the siege left for film three...


Dec 9 2012, 4:47pm

Post #57 of 59 (156 views)
cut out for the SEE or left for film 2 [In reply to] Can't Post

doesnt matter!
i'm looking way more forward to the SEE or film2 than to this film...

Captain Salt
Tol Eressea

Dec 9 2012, 5:43pm

Post #58 of 59 (146 views)
Yes, the exclusion of scenes was gleaned from what [In reply to] Can't Post

Notanelvishname and others, such as a couple of people on IMDB, mentioned about scenes being left out of the theatrical cut (Notanelvishname and someone on IMDB both described the film pretty much identically - stumbled across a thread full of descriptions which matched those posted in the ToRN Staff Spoiler threads - and so would appear to be legit).


My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!

(This post was edited by Captain Salt on Dec 9 2012, 5:45pm)


Dec 9 2012, 7:50pm

Post #59 of 59 (155 views)
Correct! I misremembered. // [In reply to] Can't Post


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