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The watchful peace lasted 400 years, but it wasn't 400 years before The Hobbit timeframe

AinurOlorin
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Dec 9 2012, 8:29pm


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The watchful peace lasted 400 years, but it wasn't 400 years before The Hobbit timeframe [In reply to] Can't Post

It lasted from 2063 when Gandalf first went to Dol Guldur and Sauron retreated from him and hid in relative silence for several centuries, until just about the time when Deagol and Sméagol find The Ring. It would have been more impressive and plausible for Elrond to have simply said "for 900 years we have had peace, a watchful peace" which would still have been as accurate ( any dark deeds commited after 2063 mainly happened IN the 400 years the film is claiming, NOT in the 500 years before that, and such monumental victories for evil as The Moria Balrog arising and exiling the Dwarves from Khazad-Dum and The Nazgul taking Minas Ithil happened more than two centuries before The Watchful Peace began), and would at least have included the actual timespan of The Watchful Peace.

"Hear me, hounds of Sauron, Gandalf is here! Fly if you value your foul skins, I will shrivel you from tail to snout if you step within this circle!"

"Do not be to eager to deal out death in judgement. Even the very wise cannot see all ends."

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question about the white council sneak peak scene (non-spoiler) MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Dec 8 2012, 7:55pm
    The only battle I can find that fits the timeline... Aragalen the Green Send a private message to Aragalen the Green Dec 8 2012, 8:37pm
    Hmmm... Macsen Send a private message to Macsen Dec 8 2012, 9:19pm
    Condensing Tolkien's timelines in commonplace in Jackson's film versions Radagast-Aiwendil Send a private message to Radagast-Aiwendil Dec 8 2012, 9:51pm
    here you go Valandil ed Imladris Send a private message to Valandil ed Imladris Dec 8 2012, 10:02pm
        That makes sense, I kept thinking battle as in large armies // Aragalen the Green Send a private message to Aragalen the Green Dec 8 2012, 10:16pm
        ahhh, thanks MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Dec 8 2012, 11:14pm
            I think that was Tolkien's explanation, unless I'm mis-remembering... sycorax82 Send a private message to sycorax82 Dec 9 2012, 3:50am
                think so too MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Dec 9 2012, 5:45am
    The watchful peace lasted 400 years, but it wasn't 400 years before The Hobbit timeframe AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Dec 9 2012, 8:29pm

 
 
 

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