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New Clip HD!!!! The White Council (incredible acting)
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Dec 7 2012, 5:02pm

Post #76 of 80 (341 views)
and it doesn't hurt that the shot is gorgeous. [In reply to] Can't Post

i love the color scheme/lighting they went with. feels like autumn's first frost!


Dec 7 2012, 5:07pm

Post #77 of 80 (329 views)
Marty! [In reply to] Can't Post

yeah, Taxi Driver and Raging Bull (my fav Scorsese) are definite classics.

i get the love for Goodfellas but it's not as good as those two, in my opinion. or as good as Mean Streets, Mean Streets is also great.

Tol Eressea

Dec 8 2012, 2:40am

Post #78 of 80 (284 views)
While were talking Scorsese... [In reply to] Can't Post

It may not be very well known, but i really love After Hours, about a guy (Griffin Dunne) on a date from hell while "trapped" in Soho circa 1985. It's hilarious, has an amazing cast, and is brilliantly shot. I think it's just as good as his better known classics.


Dec 8 2012, 6:34am

Post #79 of 80 (306 views)
I really loved this clip. The setting is beautiful, the dialogue and interaction wonderful [In reply to] Can't Post

If there is anything to quibble over, three things come to mind. A) it is unfortunate that Elrond is being portrayed as something of a dong here, since he actually was completely on the same page with Gandalf about the likelihood of Sauron launching another great war.

B) The Watchful peace actually ended long before Gollum found The Ring. The Span of time is right, but the period is wrong, and I think it would have been much better to simply have had Elrond say that for 900 years (give or take a few decades) they had experienced a watchful peace, as it would have been a more impressive time frame and kept the actual beginning period of The Watchful Peace (also caused largely by Gandalf's "meddling"), as well as the actual years which encompassed The Watchful Peace

C) I am still waiting to see if these films will make any ties to The Balrog, the Bane of The Dwarven Father-King (albeit in one of his re-incarnations) and the original Third Age Woe of The Dwarves as a people, and also the second Darkest and most powerful Dark Power still known to reside in all Middle Earth at the time. In the books, The Council does not know for certain that The Terror in Moria is a Balrog, but in the films they are well aware of it, and it would seem more than passing strange indeed for them to be fretting over the potential foes Sauron might bring to bear and NOT give any thought to the most obvious dread ally, a former co-captain in the service of Melkor The Morgoth (as strange as ignoring his quiet but pivotal role in the final decisions of THe Dwarves immediately following the Azanulbizar battle).

"Hear me, hounds of Sauron, Gandalf is here! Fly if you value your foul skins, I will shrivel you from tail to snout if you step within this circle!"

"Do not be to eager to deal out death in judgement. Even the very wise cannot see all ends."


Dec 10 2012, 5:09pm

Post #80 of 80 (233 views)
yeah, "After Hours" [In reply to] Can't Post

is very atypical Scorsese but good stuff. a strong comedy.

Who's That Knockin' At My Door is also very good, an early template for his style and some of the subject matter of his most famous movies.

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