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lurtz2010
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Nov 29 2012, 6:19am
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how do you feel about the eagles rescue ending now?
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When it was confirmed with the updated "scroll" that it wouldn't end at the barrel escape but at the eagles rescue instead I had knot in my stomach all that day thinking about it lol. Back when it was just 2 movies I actually thought the first one would include everything up to the barrel escape with most of the White Council at Dol Guldur stuff aswell.
Thinking about that now though, it makes me realise how cramped and rushed that first movie would've been. If they can now make a full movie that only includes the events up to the eagles rescue plus flashbacks etc then how would it have worked with Beorn, Mirkwood and the Elven Halls too?
I now think this part of the book is the perfect conclusion to the first act. Obvioulsy it won't end with the eagles flying into the distance, they'll probably land on the cliffs or somewhere and discuss what just happened and what they'll do next.
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Maiarmike
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Nov 29 2012, 6:23am
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...with it ending after the barrels, you would have had a very long, and up and down movie with multiple climaxes and build-ups. The audience may have started to fatigue around the character heavy Mirkwood scenes.
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jtarkey
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Nov 29 2012, 6:29am
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I've certainly warmed up to it
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I was also very disappointed when I found out it wouldn't last until the barrels. My favourite aspect of TH and LOTR is the journey, and to have that cut short felt like a bummer. Then, I realized that there would be two films about the journey instead of one, and my excitement increased again.
Isn't it funny how the story feels cramped now if it would have been 2 films?
If you think about it, there are hardly any book to film adaptations that include everything in the book and also expand on it. If you think about how much was left out of LOTR, they could have made 6-9 films out of it.
I'm honestly most excited for AUJ. TDOS will hopefully be good as well, but I'm not too thrilled for TABA. I just love a good road story. It's awesome to see characters go through a literal journey and an emotional one as well.
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totoro
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Nov 29 2012, 6:53am
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I was happy with the split as soon as it was announced! nt
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Wordofmask
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Nov 29 2012, 7:09am
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Some thread below had discussed about the ending. The use of song of the lonely mountain theory. The eagles may drop them at a cliff somewhere. Gandalf's farewell. after all they could see their distant kingdom (Erebor). Thorin's willful face sound very good ending scene for me. it would perfectly match with the following song of lonely mountain at a credit.
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dormouse
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Nov 29 2012, 9:11am
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Well, at the risk of stating the obvious...
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...we don't know exactly how it will end or exactly where in the story. Somewhere around the time of the eagle rescue, but that leaves a whole lot of room for interpretation.
In any case, it never was an issue for me because it's not as if they've cut anything out. We'll still see Mirkwood and the barrels, just a bit later, and they've given themselves time not to rush it. So long as the end feels like a satisfying end, while still anticipating what's to come that's fine - and I'm certain it will.
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DanielLB
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Nov 29 2012, 10:38am
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I always thought cutting the film before Mirkwood would be a bad idea, for two reasons.
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1) We had known for a very long time that the original duology was going to split around the barrel escape. I thought it would make for a great ending. It took me awhile to adjust to the idea of a trilogy. And subsequently ...
2) I didn't think a 3 hour film could carry a story up until the Eagle rescue. That 7 minute fan cut of all available footage convinced me otherwise.
It seems reasonable now, and I'm dieing to see it!
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painjoiker
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Nov 29 2012, 12:30pm
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I always thought the barrels was a perfect ending!
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I still think it is, but I have now gotten used to the trilogy-decision and I am really looking forward to it 
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imin
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Nov 29 2012, 1:06pm
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I always thought a good ending
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and a natural change in story was when Gandalf left them on the edge of Mirkwood.
So the film would end with them leaving Beorn's Hall or with Gandalf riding off into the distance as they slowly walk into Mirkwood, kinda like Frodo and Sam at the end of FOTR and TTT.
i also feel that is enough material for both films 1 and 2 (when there was just 2), though i know a much more popular idea was to end with the barrel ride - too much for film 1 in my opinion.
I still think ending at the edge of Mirkwood could work as a 2 film split but they have added more stuff so it would be 2 films 5 hours long, lol.
With it ending with the eagles/carrock i am fine with it, its not too far from where i wanted - only missing out Beorn and it will work well to re-introduce the characters a year later in DOS to Beorn and the audience.
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BeornBerserker
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Nov 29 2012, 2:35pm
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I agree. The ending allows for the characters to be reintroduced to Beorn but in an new exciting/dangerous sort of way that should prevent any repetitive feeling. I think this break allows for all the tension of Mirkwood exploits to rise and fall toward the beginning of the second allowing for the big build up to Smaug.
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Kassandros
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Nov 29 2012, 3:28pm
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It will end at the Carrock. Bank on it.
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The art book's last scene is the Carrock. There's no talk of Beorn being in the movie. I am 99% certain that the film will end with the eagles dropping off the party at the Carrock.
As for how I feel about the ending - it's still wait and see for me. Depends how the movie flows. PJ probably knows what he's doing, though.
all we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us...
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Faenoriel
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Nov 29 2012, 4:40pm
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Changed my mind about it making cinematic sense
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but still feeling sad about seeing Beorn and Mirkwood being postponed by a whole year!
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