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Kassandros
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Nov 26 2012, 5:18pm


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Yeah, obviously Luthien is half-Maiar. I don't know what I was thinking... I actually really like the story of Melian and Thingol. Of course, now I have "Melian The Maia" to the tune of Frosty the Snowman in my head...

I still say that singing Morgoth to sleep is too much even for a half-Maiar. Would we be ok with Gandalf coming along and doing the same to Sauron in Lord of the Rings? I have no problem with Luthien being very powerful, but she just seems a bit much.

As far as elves go, I prefer Galadriel, oddly enough. A strong, powerful, and complex character. I am really hoping they show her throwing down the walls of Dol Guldur in the Hobbit trilogy. I'd actually love a Silmarillion trilogy told from Galadriel's perspective. The movie could be framed around her telling the stories of the Silmarillion and her own part in them to someone around the time of Lord of the Rings. Never gonnna happen, but I think Cate Blanchett would be great in it. The dark tragedies of the Silmarillion in general would make a good contrast to LotR and The Hobbit.

all we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us...

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Smaug in movie Wordofmask Send a private message to Wordofmask Nov 23 2012, 6:43pm
    It's like the death star Welsh hero Send a private message to Welsh hero Nov 23 2012, 6:55pm
    It would've been interesting to read how this scene would've played out in the abounded re-write DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Nov 23 2012, 7:10pm
        The arrow alread has a story Faenoriel Send a private message to Faenoriel Nov 23 2012, 7:16pm
            Yup, I think the backstory will be expanded upon DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Nov 23 2012, 7:20pm
                It'll glow! And sparkle! Omniouly! Faenoriel Send a private message to Faenoriel Nov 23 2012, 7:22pm
                    There should be an interactive phone in! DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Nov 23 2012, 7:32pm
    Yes, I hate that Smaug dies so easily in book Danielos Send a private message to Danielos Nov 23 2012, 7:13pm
        Wasn't Sauron trying to pat Isildur on the head PJ's invention? Faenoriel Send a private message to Faenoriel Nov 23 2012, 7:20pm
        Pride goes before a fall. Silverlode Send a private message to Silverlode Nov 23 2012, 10:06pm
            Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall. Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Nov 23 2012, 10:11pm
                Yes. :-) Silverlode Send a private message to Silverlode Nov 23 2012, 10:35pm
        Ahhh I now see JRRT is blamed for Sir PJ's changes that people don't like. ElendilTheShort Send a private message to ElendilTheShort Nov 23 2012, 10:46pm
            Heh. Silverlode Send a private message to Silverlode Nov 23 2012, 10:54pm
                Not your comment, someone elses Silverlode. ElendilTheShort Send a private message to ElendilTheShort Nov 23 2012, 11:12pm
            This has been the case for long Faenoriel Send a private message to Faenoriel Nov 24 2012, 12:06am
    Smaug was always so strong Tolkien had to pull some miracle Faenoriel Send a private message to Faenoriel Nov 23 2012, 7:14pm
    Welcome to B.A.D.D.! Kassandros Send a private message to Kassandros Nov 23 2012, 7:19pm
    We discussed this a few weeks back Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 23 2012, 7:23pm
        Ahh, the grey hairs on the script writing team's head! Faenoriel Send a private message to Faenoriel Nov 23 2012, 7:25pm
            People will assume he dies based on the title as well Kassandros Send a private message to Kassandros Nov 23 2012, 7:30pm
                It could have double meaning Faenoriel Send a private message to Faenoriel Nov 23 2012, 7:32pm
                    Maybe PJ has changed the story.... Kassandros Send a private message to Kassandros Nov 23 2012, 7:36pm
                        Where's my Alternative Ending with Sauron winning the War of the Ring? Faenoriel Send a private message to Faenoriel Nov 23 2012, 7:38pm
                            How about both in a special collector's edition? Kassandros Send a private message to Kassandros Nov 23 2012, 7:47pm
                                hey jimmyfenn Send a private message to jimmyfenn Nov 23 2012, 7:54pm
                                    My favorite dragon is... Kassandros Send a private message to Kassandros Nov 23 2012, 10:17pm
                                Smaug IS cooler than Sauron Tim Send a private message to Tim Nov 23 2012, 8:02pm
                                    Sauron is only mysterious and behind the scenes in LotR Faenoriel Send a private message to Faenoriel Nov 23 2012, 9:20pm
                                Sauron in LotR, or Sauron in the entire Legendarium? Faenoriel Send a private message to Faenoriel Nov 23 2012, 9:18pm
                                    I like Sauron more in LotR, to be honest Kassandros Send a private message to Kassandros Nov 23 2012, 10:24pm
                                        Could it be that Smaug had more lines than Sauron? DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Nov 23 2012, 10:31pm
                                            too bad he didn't stay behind the scenes in the films as well Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Nov 24 2012, 3:04am
                                                But... he does? Faenoriel Send a private message to Faenoriel Nov 24 2012, 3:09am
                                                    referring to the Hobbit Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Nov 24 2012, 3:39am
                                                Who, Sauron? DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Nov 24 2012, 10:13am
                                        Difference of tastes then, for I vastly prefer Silmarillion Faenoriel Send a private message to Faenoriel Nov 23 2012, 10:35pm
                                            Luthien is too powerful Kassandros Send a private message to Kassandros Nov 23 2012, 10:45pm
                                                Kassandros ElendilTheShort Send a private message to ElendilTheShort Nov 23 2012, 11:11pm
                                                    that's silly totoro Send a private message to totoro Nov 23 2012, 11:56pm
                                                        Critical Hit Kassandros Send a private message to Kassandros Nov 24 2012, 12:03am
                                                            Perhaps Aitieuriskon Send a private message to Aitieuriskon Nov 24 2012, 12:11am
                                                                The Black Arrow is kind of cheated anyway... noob item IMO // Fàfnir Send a private message to Fàfnir Nov 24 2012, 12:14am
                                                    A fireball would have been just as disappointing Kassandros Send a private message to Kassandros Nov 24 2012, 12:02am
                                                        Lúthien was using his own weakness against him Faenoriel Send a private message to Faenoriel Nov 24 2012, 12:14am
                                                        Nah, I was talking about ElendilTheShort Send a private message to ElendilTheShort Nov 24 2012, 2:45am
                                                A simple elf — not Finrod Send a private message to Finrod Nov 24 2012, 3:16am
                                                    Lúthien is truly unique... by being unique. Faenoriel Send a private message to Faenoriel Nov 24 2012, 3:28am
                                                    Ack! Kassandros Send a private message to Kassandros Nov 26 2012, 5:18pm
                                            I adore Luthien's singing Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Nov 23 2012, 10:46pm
                In Norway we have a great solution for that! painjoiker Send a private message to painjoiker Nov 23 2012, 8:09pm
                    Ah, but I really like the ambiguity of the word desolation, quite untranslatable! // Foromir Send a private message to Foromir Nov 23 2012, 8:21pm
                        I like the ambiguity, too. Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Nov 23 2012, 8:33pm
                            End of film 2 Danielos Send a private message to Danielos Nov 23 2012, 8:41pm
                                I'm hoping Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Nov 23 2012, 8:50pm
                            That's a nice wish... Foromir Send a private message to Foromir Nov 23 2012, 8:49pm
                                I know! Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Nov 23 2012, 8:52pm
                    Might be a problem if they ignore that bit DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Nov 23 2012, 8:30pm
                But why should they assume this? Aitieuriskon Send a private message to Aitieuriskon Nov 23 2012, 10:16pm
                    I don't know! Kassandros Send a private message to Kassandros Nov 23 2012, 10:19pm
                    Well no not always. Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Nov 23 2012, 10:23pm
                    I think it's because Silverlode Send a private message to Silverlode Nov 23 2012, 10:39pm
                        So that's where its coming from! Aitieuriskon Send a private message to Aitieuriskon Nov 23 2012, 11:10pm
                            In addition... Silverlode Send a private message to Silverlode Nov 23 2012, 11:38pm
                    I have been baffled totoro Send a private message to totoro Nov 23 2012, 11:51pm
                        Well, according to dictionary.com Foromir Send a private message to Foromir Nov 24 2012, 12:04am
                To me it rings more like "destruction caused by Smaug" -- in Dale and Laketown Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Nov 24 2012, 11:37am
                    I agree totoro Send a private message to totoro Nov 24 2012, 4:14pm
            Not that I would wish the lightning on you Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Nov 23 2012, 7:55pm
    The attack of laketown will be a great action scene... (spoilers) Fàfnir Send a private message to Fàfnir Nov 23 2012, 7:27pm
        Even in the book it's a dramatic scene Faenoriel Send a private message to Faenoriel Nov 23 2012, 7:35pm
            I like it a lot too Fàfnir Send a private message to Fàfnir Nov 23 2012, 7:42pm
                I was just a small kid... burgahobbit Send a private message to burgahobbit Nov 23 2012, 8:15pm
    dragoni jimmyfenn Send a private message to jimmyfenn Nov 23 2012, 7:47pm
        Bomby will bring this UP?...ONE more Time.. Bombadil Send a private message to Bombadil Nov 23 2012, 8:11pm
            Interesting thought burgahobbit Send a private message to burgahobbit Nov 23 2012, 8:20pm
    I want Smaug to live Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Nov 23 2012, 11:12pm
        You have to hope for an Alternative Ending too, then. // Faenoriel Send a private message to Faenoriel Nov 24 2012, 12:35am
    It was ALMOST more dramatic in the book... dreamflower Send a private message to dreamflower Nov 26 2012, 2:51pm

 
 
 

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