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Nov 19 2012, 3:13pm


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There will be an Azanulbizar prologue in "An Unexpected Journey". Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Nov 14 2012, 9:17pm
    Either its that, or Smaug's assault on Erebor Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 14 2012, 9:19pm
    I was expecting an official confirmation - or at least something from a "source" thomasofrohan Send a private message to thomasofrohan Nov 14 2012, 9:25pm
        The film hasn't been locked down yet DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Nov 14 2012, 9:29pm
            Are you a source? // Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Nov 14 2012, 9:34pm
            Really? Arthael Send a private message to Arthael Nov 14 2012, 10:34pm
        I am a source! Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Nov 14 2012, 9:33pm
            A flying source! The day Middle-earth stands still is upon us! // Plurmo Send a private message to Plurmo Nov 16 2012, 2:19am
    I believe there is no better place for Azanulbizar Apatcha Send a private message to Apatcha Nov 14 2012, 9:25pm
        I have thought this would be the case since the beginning. Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Nov 14 2012, 9:32pm
    Are we sure Azanulbizar is even in the films? Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Nov 14 2012, 9:30pm
        If it's brief, and fleshes out the Azog/Bolg vs Durin's line history of vengeance Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 14 2012, 9:32pm
            Like I said, it's fine Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Nov 14 2012, 9:35pm
                Understood Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 14 2012, 9:37pm
                    Because... Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Nov 14 2012, 9:44pm
                        If done right, I think showing Azanulbizar could make the conflict feel more personal and thus more interesting than "everyone hates orcs anyway" thomasofrohan Send a private message to thomasofrohan Nov 14 2012, 9:49pm
                            Agreed. Macfeast Send a private message to Macfeast Nov 14 2012, 10:41pm
                                Great points all around Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 14 2012, 10:46pm
                                If Pj is as subtle as that pettytyrant101 Send a private message to pettytyrant101 Nov 14 2012, 10:56pm
                                    Perhaps the failures that were King Kong and Lovely Bones Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 14 2012, 11:11pm
                                        Strange thing is pettytyrant101 Send a private message to pettytyrant101 Nov 14 2012, 11:26pm
                                            Or alternatively Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Nov 14 2012, 11:29pm
                                                A matter of opinion, of course pettytyrant101 Send a private message to pettytyrant101 Nov 14 2012, 11:34pm
                                                    Ah shot A is deemed to be X Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Nov 14 2012, 11:41pm
                                                        Until we see the films pettytyrant101 Send a private message to pettytyrant101 Nov 14 2012, 11:53pm
                                                            Or if you are the sort of person Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Nov 14 2012, 11:56pm
                                                                I would reckon pettytyrant101 Send a private message to pettytyrant101 Nov 15 2012, 12:03am
                                                                    The angle of the horse leg kick was wrong? Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Nov 15 2012, 12:32am
                                                                        Cheap shot pettytyrant101 Send a private message to pettytyrant101 Nov 15 2012, 12:45am
                                                                            There are MOMENTS entirely about spectacle starlesswinter Send a private message to starlesswinter Nov 15 2012, 12:57am
                                                                                It all comes down to pettytyrant101 Send a private message to pettytyrant101 Nov 15 2012, 1:15am
                                                                                    Immersed Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Nov 15 2012, 1:20am
                                                                                        Or ... pettytyrant101 Send a private message to pettytyrant101 Nov 15 2012, 1:26am
                                                                                            POV Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Nov 15 2012, 2:05am
                                                                                                With a good imagination... totoro Send a private message to totoro Nov 15 2012, 2:45am
                                                                                                    I dont think I lack an imagination pettytyrant101 Send a private message to pettytyrant101 Nov 15 2012, 7:27am
                                                                                                        lol nt totoro Send a private message to totoro Nov 16 2012, 9:07am
                                                                            Great example. Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Nov 15 2012, 7:39am
                                                                                My own take pettytyrant101 Send a private message to pettytyrant101 Nov 15 2012, 8:02am
                                                                                    Middle-Earth feels "real" to you? Beutlin Send a private message to Beutlin Nov 15 2012, 12:54pm
                                                                                        Yes, it does pettytyrant101 Send a private message to pettytyrant101 Nov 15 2012, 2:48pm
                                                                                            Not to mention that this "feigned" history Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 15 2012, 7:57pm
                                                                                            It is a brilliant fictional mythology. But it is not history. Beutlin Send a private message to Beutlin Nov 16 2012, 1:23am
                                                                                        Literary criticism of LOTR seems to be changing Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 15 2012, 4:59pm
                                                                                            Oh, I am not arguing that reception of Tolkien's works will never change. Beutlin Send a private message to Beutlin Nov 16 2012, 1:41am
                                                                                    POV 2 Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Nov 15 2012, 1:52pm
                                                                                    Absolutely Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Nov 15 2012, 4:09pm
                                                            Exactly.... adnan Send a private message to adnan Nov 15 2012, 8:47pm
                                            Heavenly Creatures, yes Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 14 2012, 11:35pm
                                                She knows Tolkien?? ElendilTheShort Send a private message to ElendilTheShort Nov 15 2012, 7:42am
                                                    Knowing Tolkien starlesswinter Send a private message to starlesswinter Nov 15 2012, 7:48pm
                                            Fran is by far the most intelligent writer starlesswinter Send a private message to starlesswinter Nov 15 2012, 12:04am
                                                I also get that sense Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 15 2012, 4:40am
                                                    Well starlesswinter Send a private message to starlesswinter Nov 15 2012, 6:47am
                                                        If TT had been better... pettytyrant101 Send a private message to pettytyrant101 Nov 15 2012, 7:31am
                                        King Kong was not a box office failure though. Carne Send a private message to Carne Nov 14 2012, 11:40pm
                                And Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Nov 14 2012, 10:57pm
                                    Agreed thats great stuff pettytyrant101 Send a private message to pettytyrant101 Nov 14 2012, 11:03pm
                                Absolutely... adnan Send a private message to adnan Nov 15 2012, 8:36pm
                                    Sure... Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 15 2012, 8:38pm
                        I dont think PJ likes coincidences in a story but he loves action sequences, That all very fine with me. Dlanor da Great Send a private message to Dlanor da Great Nov 14 2012, 10:41pm
        It's in. Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 14 2012, 9:32pm
            Curious Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 14 2012, 9:33pm
                Pointless padding Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 14 2012, 9:35pm
                    Azanulbizar is very importantant for an understanding of the Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Nov 14 2012, 9:42pm
                        Everyone hates orcs Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 14 2012, 9:45pm
                            But it's a lot more cinematically interesting Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 14 2012, 10:01pm
                                Agreed! Tim Send a private message to Tim Nov 14 2012, 10:30pm
                                Not really, all orcs are the same Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 15 2012, 8:33am
                                    If all orcs are the same Aitieuriskon Send a private message to Aitieuriskon Nov 15 2012, 3:02pm
                                        All orcs aren't the same but... Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Nov 15 2012, 3:25pm
                                            I agree Aitieuriskon Send a private message to Aitieuriskon Nov 15 2012, 3:35pm
                        But none of that is needed Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Nov 14 2012, 9:47pm
            I think I remember that interview Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Nov 14 2012, 9:36pm
                It the one where he talks about playing a younger Thorin Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 14 2012, 9:38pm
                    Plus in Vlog, we see Thorin Fŕfnir Send a private message to Fŕfnir Nov 14 2012, 9:41pm
                        Yup, the BO5A isn't filmed until next year. / DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Nov 14 2012, 9:42pm
                            Also, we know from the Official Movie Gude (and perhaps elsewhere) Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Nov 14 2012, 11:30pm
            Im also unsure about this pettytyrant101 Send a private message to pettytyrant101 Nov 14 2012, 9:47pm
                This is a fear I have as well Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 14 2012, 10:04pm
                    Good point Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Nov 14 2012, 10:05pm
                    Got to admit pettytyrant101 Send a private message to pettytyrant101 Nov 14 2012, 10:09pm
                    That's because it's not very interesting! Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 15 2012, 8:24am
                        And the Battle of the Last Alliance... Macfeast Send a private message to Macfeast Nov 15 2012, 12:05pm
                            Thoughts based on music... Shagrat Send a private message to Shagrat Nov 15 2012, 12:11pm
                            Sure, you can make a battle interesting by focusing on details Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 15 2012, 3:35pm
                                The story can absolutely do without these details Macfeast Send a private message to Macfeast Nov 15 2012, 3:45pm
                                    I don't see it enriching the films "a great deal" Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 15 2012, 4:16pm
                                        Fortunately for many of us Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Nov 15 2012, 4:52pm
                                            Response. Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 15 2012, 6:26pm
                                                Fardragon, you surprise me Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 15 2012, 6:30pm
                                                1 No, since the decision was made on a base of creativity and lack Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Nov 15 2012, 6:41pm
                                                    Most definitely! Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 15 2012, 8:17pm
                                                        Studio dave_lf Send a private message to dave_lf Nov 15 2012, 8:22pm
                                                        Cheesy? Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 15 2012, 8:25pm
                                                            Cheese free! Tim Send a private message to Tim Nov 15 2012, 8:27pm
                                                            The last alliance scene stank of so much cheese Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 15 2012, 8:31pm
                                                                But there was a lot more to the prologue Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 15 2012, 8:34pm
                                                                    Was there? Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 15 2012, 8:35pm
                                                                        Clearly Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Nov 16 2012, 1:03am
                                        Padding is padding starlesswinter Send a private message to starlesswinter Nov 15 2012, 7:46pm
                                            That's your definition of padding Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 16 2012, 6:16am
                                                verisimilitude? Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 16 2012, 8:36am
                                                    Verisimilitude totoro Send a private message to totoro Nov 16 2012, 9:42am
                                                    Who decided that films can't be about truth? Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 16 2012, 11:25pm
                                                        The audience! Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 17 2012, 8:59am
                                                            You seem rather nearsighted. Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Nov 17 2012, 7:37pm
                                                                This is what I mean by elitist: Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 18 2012, 8:38am
                                                                    You say your an elitist Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Nov 19 2012, 3:39am
                                                                        You fight like a cow! Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 19 2012, 7:48am
                                                                            Fight? Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Nov 19 2012, 3:13pm
                                                What is good for the goose is good for the gander Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Nov 16 2012, 1:59pm
                                                Every author is guilty of padding starlesswinter Send a private message to starlesswinter Nov 16 2012, 11:02pm
                                                    Of course films have time to indulge Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 16 2012, 11:27pm
                                                        Well, yes, but not as much as a book starlesswinter Send a private message to starlesswinter Nov 16 2012, 11:35pm
                                                            Agreed Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 16 2012, 11:42pm
                                                                Really? I feel that the atmosphere is one thing he got right. starlesswinter Send a private message to starlesswinter Nov 16 2012, 11:53pm
                                                                The more complex the source material Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 17 2012, 3:03pm
                                                                    Really? starlesswinter Send a private message to starlesswinter Nov 17 2012, 7:21pm
                                                                    The Prizoner of Azkaban stands out. Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Nov 17 2012, 7:40pm
                                                                        Agreed starlesswinter Send a private message to starlesswinter Nov 17 2012, 9:06pm
                                                                        Agreed 100% Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 17 2012, 9:07pm
                                                                            Although I am very much a Peter Jackson fan starlesswinter Send a private message to starlesswinter Nov 17 2012, 9:25pm
                                                                                During the speculation about who would direct Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 17 2012, 10:21pm
                                                                                He was my first pick when Del Toro left. // Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Nov 18 2012, 2:21am
                                                                                    It pains me to think Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 18 2012, 6:44am
                                                                                        Jackson or Spielberg Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Nov 18 2012, 7:29am
                                                                                            Spielberg & Tolkien?! Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 18 2012, 8:36am
                                                                                                Absolutely Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Nov 18 2012, 3:56pm
                                                                                                Have to agree with Fardragon here Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 18 2012, 7:11pm
                                                                                                    I believe Spielberg has already turned down Star Wars starlesswinter Send a private message to starlesswinter Nov 18 2012, 8:06pm
                                                                                                        A few have hedged Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 18 2012, 9:55pm
                                                                            I've seen them all many times Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Nov 18 2012, 8:28am
                                                                                Actually I would have to agree with SA Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Nov 18 2012, 4:39pm
                                                                                Thanks for the armchair psychology, but no Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 18 2012, 7:08pm
                                                                                Not so for me starlesswinter Send a private message to starlesswinter Nov 18 2012, 8:05pm
                                                                                    Yup Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 18 2012, 8:16pm
                            Meat on the bone Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Nov 15 2012, 4:42pm
                    By the way. Macfeast Send a private message to Macfeast Nov 17 2012, 2:48am
                        Apart from the Spanish conquistadoresque helmets of the dwarves Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 17 2012, 2:51am
                Character Arcs are actually a good thing. Elutherian Send a private message to Elutherian Nov 14 2012, 10:08pm
                    That depends on the need for an arc pettytyrant101 Send a private message to pettytyrant101 Nov 14 2012, 10:27pm
                    Yes, yes Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Nov 14 2012, 10:34pm
                    Agreed.// Owain Send a private message to Owain Nov 16 2012, 5:43am
    Maybe the last notes of "A good Omen"... Fŕfnir Send a private message to Fŕfnir Nov 14 2012, 9:35pm
        But dave_lf Send a private message to dave_lf Nov 14 2012, 9:53pm
    Now we have 3 films it's extremely likely sycorax82 Send a private message to sycorax82 Nov 14 2012, 9:39pm
    3 "Prologues" sprinkled throughtout the first half? Arthael Send a private message to Arthael Nov 14 2012, 10:53pm
    I think there is a good chance that we will glimpse The Balrog as well. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Nov 15 2012, 7:42am
        The Balrog = An Ancient Enemy? Shagrat Send a private message to Shagrat Nov 15 2012, 9:54am
            OK, just had a thought, although I know Shore's -much- better than this.. Xanaseb Send a private message to Xanaseb Nov 15 2012, 11:31am
            Neither Balrog nor Smaug is the "Ancient Enemy" (potential spoilers) Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Send a private message to Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Nov 15 2012, 12:16pm
                'An Ancient Enemy' Shagrat Send a private message to Shagrat Nov 15 2012, 1:03pm
                    Yes and no (spoilers) Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Send a private message to Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Nov 15 2012, 1:15pm
        The Balrog AND the Battle of Anazar-thingy (always spell it wrong)?...Awesome! malickfan Send a private message to malickfan Nov 15 2012, 3:26pm
            Please no Balrog Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Nov 15 2012, 3:32pm
                The Balrog is, in some ways, the most directly significant figure in Third Age Dwarven history. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Nov 16 2012, 12:38am
                    I'm pretty sure Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Nov 16 2012, 12:59am
                        I am half with you. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Nov 16 2012, 1:13am
                            Malfeasance... Tim Send a private message to Tim Nov 16 2012, 5:39am
                                Lol. Why thank you, sir. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Nov 16 2012, 8:26am

 
 
 

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