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Estel78
Tol Eressea

Nov 10 2012, 12:54pm

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Sorry but as soon as the "singing" started i had to turn it off. [In reply to] Can't Post

Rap is awful. Crazy


imin
Valinor


Nov 10 2012, 1:01pm

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i cant say i like rap [In reply to] Can't Post

but i don't think of that as rap - its more like Flight of the Concords as in funny songs - each to their own. Smile


Bombadil
Half-elven


Nov 10 2012, 1:57pm

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Rap is Crap without the Letter C in Front of it? /// [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Escapist
Gondor


Nov 10 2012, 2:09pm

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Good question [In reply to] Can't Post

I tried to look at all kinds of examples of CGI dogs and wolves to see what was good and not good.

One thing that I noticed was that the LOTR wargs are hard to use as an example because the resolution just wasn't as fine-grained and they weren't totally CGI.

So just considering other totally CGI animals, I noticed that a lot of the Avatar creatures did not have hair and that it is probably easier with less hair.

I looked at the Twilight wolves. They weren't bad although I could tell they weren't "real".
*The jumping transformation was revealing of the not-realness of CGI
*I found with a lot of CGI (including Yoda and Twilight wolves and probably everything else) there is a lot of movement of things like ears and a certain bubbly and flowing bounciness that is a little bit unrealistic.

I think Gollum is pretty good, actually, as an example of great CGI - but now again ... not much hair ...

I agree that the wargs shouldn't just be wolves - but that having something darker (and not looking all that healthy ... less hair) would work.


imin
Valinor


Nov 10 2012, 2:12pm

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A massive Chinese Crested warg? [:P] [In reply to] Can't Post


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I agree that the wargs shouldn't just be wolves - but that having something darker (and not looking all that healthy ... less hair) would work.



Estel78
Tol Eressea

Nov 10 2012, 2:37pm

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I don't think hair is that much of a problem anymore. [In reply to] Can't Post

Kong had hair and he looked great and that was 2005.


Fardragon
Rohan

Nov 10 2012, 3:31pm

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CGI monkey [In reply to] Can't Post

looked like a CGI monkey.

There is still a long way to go before hair can be done 100% realisticaly.

A Far Dragon is the best kind...


Estel78
Tol Eressea

Nov 10 2012, 3:38pm

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Well, i disagree. [In reply to] Can't Post

Kong looked pretty amazing.


Fardragon
Rohan

Nov 10 2012, 3:39pm

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Amazing? Yes. [In reply to] Can't Post

Real? No.

A Far Dragon is the best kind...


Estel78
Tol Eressea

Nov 10 2012, 3:50pm

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He looked pretty real to me. [In reply to] Can't Post

Not like 100% real, not in every instance. But it's not the fur that gave it away.


(This post was edited by Estel78 on Nov 10 2012, 3:51pm)


imin
Valinor


Nov 10 2012, 3:59pm

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its almost always the eyes that give it away for me (before anything else) // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Nov 10 2012, 7:22pm

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Apart from the Gimli slapstick, and Aragorn's tumble [In reply to] Can't Post

I also find the scene to be rather well done (and the wargs, while not my vision, are certainly great CGI, as they seem to exist in the landscape pretty seamlessly).

An attack on horsemen in the open plains, by a primordial evil, feels very Tolkien to me.

In fact, if I occasionally rewatch TTT, I always watch this scene, and then essentially fast forward through the visually and story-telling blah that is Helm's Deep.

This scene at least felt fresh.


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Nov 10 2012, 7:23pm

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IMO [In reply to] Can't Post

The warg hair in TTT looked much more realistic than Kong's.


starlesswinter
Lorien

Nov 10 2012, 7:39pm

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I thought Kong's hair was better [In reply to] Can't Post

It had more texture and more variation. Sometimes it was matted, sometimes wet, sometimes crusted with blood, it moved in the wind....

There's some iffy CGI in King Kong (I'm looking at you, brontosaurus stampede), but Kong himself is definitely not an example of it.


starlesswinter
Lorien

Nov 10 2012, 7:41pm

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Helm's Deep is visually blah? [In reply to] Can't Post

Aside from the fact that it's supposed to be grim and ugly, the ability to show a giant battle like this was groundbreaking for its time. The only thing I dislike about it is the blue digital grading.


Elenorflower
Gondor


Nov 10 2012, 8:20pm

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I thought it was brave [In reply to] Can't Post

of them to do all those warg cgi effects in broad daylight, which is unforgiving. You can see all the flaws in strong daylight. So I give them praise for going for it. The only time I have seen cgi in daylight that looks real to me personally, is Aslan.


GothmogTheBalrog
Rivendell


Nov 11 2012, 2:45am

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"Bring your pretty face to my axe!" [In reply to] Can't Post

All the Gimli slapstick in that scene was overwhelming. Really? Two Wargs and an orc fall on him? Stupid.

"It was like a great shadow, in the middle of which was a dark form, of man shape maybe, yet greater; and a power and terror seemed to be in it and go before it." ~FotR


Tim
Tol Eressea


Nov 11 2012, 3:22am

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That scene was spine-tingling good [In reply to] Can't Post

It's intriguing the different reactions something invokes. I always look forward to that cool moment the elf gets on the horse in slo-mo. Cool

-Tim came by. Tim! If you had heard only a quarter of what I have heard about him, and I have only heard very little of all there is to hear, you would be prepared for any sort of remarkable tale.


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Nov 11 2012, 3:52am

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Agreed [In reply to] Can't Post

But the rest of the sequence was great, IMO.


Tim
Tol Eressea


Nov 11 2012, 3:57am

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It seems I'm one of the few here [In reply to] Can't Post

Who really liked comic Gimli.

-Tim came by. Tim! If you had heard only a quarter of what I have heard about him, and I have only heard very little of all there is to hear, you would be prepared for any sort of remarkable tale.

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