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some new images and new trailer final (italian)

KAOS82
Rohan


Nov 9 2012, 12:59am

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some new images and new trailer final (italian) Can't Post

Hi there from Italy, I've just found 7 new pictures: http://www.comingsoon.it/News_Articoli/News/Page/?Key=18049

plus italian trailer with a different longer new final, for the most who doesn't understood my language the translation is more or less:
gandalf: they didn't make a bet if you ever come back or not but most of all has said NO
bilbo: and what did you think about?
gandalf: my dear friend, I've never doubt about you not even a second

I apologize 4 my poor english but I think you can understand the meaning
oh, the video is here: http://www.comingsoon.it/News_Articoli/News/Page/?Key=18092

good vision and hobbitforthewin ;)

TÚRIN TURAMBAR DAGNIR GLAURUNGA & NIENOR NÍNIEL

(This post was edited by KAOS82 on Nov 9 2012, 1:01am)


Estel78
Tol Eressea

Nov 9 2012, 1:09am

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Nothing new there i'm afraid. [In reply to] Can't Post

But maybe some haven't seen some of it yet. Wink


KAOS82
Rohan


Nov 9 2012, 1:46am

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sorry [In reply to] Can't Post

I've been away last 3 days but I haven't noticed any discussion similar to mine and cause of the news I reported were added yesterday in Italy I tought they were new...

btw the fact is here in Italy news about movies come often later and we have also the disgrace that the man who gave the voice to Gandalf is dead last year and for me it's difficult to listen a new voice cause I was used to the old voice, only with time passing I'll have this new voice in my head or at least I hope so, IT WAS A PITY!!!

TÚRIN TURAMBAR DAGNIR GLAURUNGA & NIENOR NÍNIEL


Lusitano
Tol Eressea


Nov 9 2012, 1:47am

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I love the italian language [In reply to] Can't Post

love speaking with my italian friends, learning new words, love watching italia cinema....but this sounds so ridiculously bad Crazy Mad

Thank the gods i wont be seeing the hobbit like that.

Bilbo Margareeetteeeeee


(This post was edited by Lusitano on Nov 9 2012, 1:48am)


waaimasjien
Bree

Nov 9 2012, 2:03am

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I have no clue why anyone would want to listen to a dub for live action films [In reply to] Can't Post

You're looking at Ian McKellen but hearing some one elses voice... It's incredibly weird, not to mention a bit rude, since you're taking part of his performance away. But, to each his own I guess.


Lusitano
Tol Eressea


Nov 9 2012, 2:14am

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Very much agreed [In reply to] Can't Post

Disrespectfull, childish, blunt, weird and often ridiculous. It is a technique that belongs in kiddie movies, not adult cinema, live action cinema.

Mel Gibsons stance on his film The Passion to prevent dubbings from latin or aramaic should be emulated across the globe.

Can you imagine Pilates or Jesus speaking in german for instance?? Crazy


KAOS82
Rohan


Nov 9 2012, 2:20am

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I know [In reply to] Can't Post

infact I saw LOTR trilogy also in original language to appreciate the performances of each actor and here there are GREAT actors!!!
but I have to watch in italian first cause is my own language
the thing I underline is that it was a sad moment when I heard of the death of Gandalf's italian voice, when I think at Gandalf I hear that voice and now comes TH and I have to use myself to a new one, that is weird!!!

TÚRIN TURAMBAR DAGNIR GLAURUNGA & NIENOR NÍNIEL


Lusitano
Tol Eressea


Nov 9 2012, 2:25am

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well [In reply to] Can't Post

arent there any cinemas with italian subtitles?

Never mind the voice, Ian's the true Gandalf Wink


Estel78
Tol Eressea

Nov 9 2012, 2:55am

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What a coincident, the german Gandalf also died. [In reply to] Can't Post

Changing voices is irritating, true.

I hope i'll be able to catch Hobbit in english on opening weekend in HFR 3D.


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Nov 9 2012, 4:59am

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There's no choice in Italy [In reply to] Can't Post

All movies are dubbed, so you simply have to.


Rolfina
Rivendell

Nov 9 2012, 7:21am

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Unfortunately dubbing has a long tradition in Germany [In reply to] Can't Post

People are used to it from early on, and so the oddness of having German dialogue laid over lips that speak English (or French) is lost to the people here. People don't notice it, because they don't know it any other way. Suggesting to change it to screening movies in Original with Subtitles would cause a big uproar here. For most movies (like anything "Hollywood") I don't really mind it myself. But for anything where the dialogue and the language becomes part of the story, the dubbing just won't do. Luckily we have one screen in town that shows the original versions (used to be more), and there are some Pay TV channels where you can chose the original language. But the fraction of people who prefer original language over dubbed versions is disappointingly small.


Arandir
Gondor


Nov 9 2012, 4:48pm

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I have to say though that the Italians are pretty much the best at dubbing ... [In reply to] Can't Post

in most films they even managed to assimilate the voice and emotion of the English version ... just saying ... Smile


Elenorflower
Gondor


Nov 10 2012, 12:16am

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yes it was very sad about [In reply to] Can't Post

the actor who dubbed for Gandalfs voice. I will miss him too. I also have to wait to see any film in English, I see it in Italian first and the quality of dubbing is very high.


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Nov 10 2012, 4:35am

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Yup [In reply to] Can't Post

As you know, the dubbing actors can be quite revered. I was living in Italy when Robert DeNiro's voice actor died, and it was essentially a national day of mourning!

As an aside, my favorite English-Italian translation is for lembas. "Pan di via." Essentially means "waybread," which is appropriate. But it's not a word most Italians have ever heard before!


Elenorflower
Gondor


Nov 10 2012, 5:15pm

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I like Barbalbero and Granburrone [In reply to] Can't Post

such strange sounding translations. I love it when Sam calls Gollum furfante! such a nice word. Sly


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Nov 10 2012, 7:36pm

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Oh yes, great examples! [In reply to] Can't Post

I have called many a friend "furfante" since! Smile

Barbalbero also has a wonderful alliterative ring to it, and is essentially an exact translation.

As an aside, I have also, just for fun, completed the first four chapters of my own LOTR English-to-Italian translation, which I will then compare to the official translations I have.


Elenorflower
Gondor


Nov 11 2012, 12:33am

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I enjoy finding out the latin origins [In reply to] Can't Post

to words. I recently found out the origin of the word decimate. Shocked
good luck with your translations, I wonder what the Italians will call the bunny sled? Wink


Lusitano
Tol Eressea


Nov 11 2012, 1:17am

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I wonder what the Italians will call the bunny sled? [In reply to] Can't Post

Stronzo Maestro!Tongue

Seriously, watching The Prisoner of Azkaban with portuguese dubbing was one of the funniest things i ever did Laugh

Hagrid, specially, reached a hole new level of ridiculousness and hilarity Laugh

But if the hobbit had a latin dubbing, even i would pay triple to see it !


Elenorflower
Gondor


Nov 11 2012, 1:41am

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coniglio carrello? [In reply to] Can't Post

mamma mia! Crazy


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Nov 11 2012, 1:59am

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Perhaps it will simply be [In reply to] Can't Post

Slitta trainato da conigli!

Or better yet: una stronzata. Smile

 
 

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