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SCOD: "I come back to you now, at the turn of the tide"


Oct 22 2012, 2:50pm

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SCOD: "I come back to you now, at the turn of the tide" Can't Post

So, this week's first SCOD focuses on Gandalf the White. (rather appropriate given his entrance in the last SCOD). I thought that I would focus on Gandalf's physical characteristics for this SCOD, and ask you about your own opinion concerning the presentation of the White Wizard. I'm new to posting SCODs, so apologies if this is not how it is normally done (in terms of posting the image), I am yet mastering the art (the image is attached to the post).

Here are some questions then:
1. Compare Gandalf the Grey to Gandalf the White. What difference is there in the latter's more ethereal presentation and character? Do you approve of the choices that PJ & Co made in order to distinguish this new Gandalf?

2. In the books, Gandalf the White rarely unveils his true colour, hiding it behind the grey mantle which he wore in his previous alias. Although he uses this briefly in The Two Towers he permanently abandons the grey cloak after a while. Do you agree/disagree with that choice?

3. Do you think that Gandalf appears to be younger, older or a mixture of both of these things? Does the shorter beard and facelift make him seem younger? Does the white beard make him seem older (and possibly more experienced)?

4. Any other thoughts/comments?

EDIT: The attachment doesn't seem to be clearly displayed. If not please follow this link. Sorry for any inconviences caused.


"Radagast is, of course, a worthy wizard, a master of shapes and changes of hue, and he has much lore of herbs and beasts, and birds are especially his friends."-Gandalf, The Lord of the Rings.

(This post was edited by Radagast-Aiwendil on Oct 22 2012, 2:54pm)

Tol Eressea

Oct 23 2012, 5:33am

Post #2 of 5 (193 views)
Here's the image... [In reply to] Can't Post

Nice choice! I'll have to ponder on it a bit Smile

Tol Eressea

Oct 23 2012, 6:47am

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Here's a wizard you want on your side [In reply to] Can't Post

I know there's a lot of debate about Gray v White, but I have to say, especially in this shot, Gandalf the White seems especially wise, knowing, and unstoppable. I've never noticed *that* much difference between the two personality-wise. It's mentioned in the book and film that G the White is quicker to anger, etc, but G. The Gray has a bit of a temper too... But Gandalf the Gray often seems a bit distracted, harried, unsure, etc. whereas Gandalf the White seems more clear headed, more self assured, stronger. Gandalf the Gray may be a better companion on a long journey, but I think Gandalf the White is the one you want when things are most dire. Well, the one I would want anyway Smile

Thanks, Radagast Aiwendil Smile

(This post was edited by zarabia on Oct 23 2012, 6:52am)

Tol Eressea

Oct 24 2012, 6:35am

Post #4 of 5 (335 views)
Additional thought (for what it's worth :P) [In reply to] Can't Post

I was thinking about the changes in the clothes, hair/make-up between Gray and White, and I think, for me, the real difference lies in Sir Ian's performance. It's more the stoop (or lack thereof) of his shoulders, the furrowed or smooth brow, the voice, etc. the make them different. But the fact that White was cleaner and more well groomed than Gray certainly helped "sell" the difference. I know some people think the change was over done, but it worked for me.

(This post was edited by zarabia on Oct 24 2012, 6:36am)


Oct 26 2012, 4:24pm

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this line is one of my favorites from the entire trilogy // [In reply to] Can't Post



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