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Pictures of Thranduil, Elrond and Legolas etc. from Frankfurt Book Fair (Spoiler)
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Faenoriel
Tol Eressea


Oct 14 2012, 1:21am

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Really? [In reply to] Can't Post

I know there's lots of Fennoscandians up there, but I don't know to what extend 'Mericans identify themselves with their European descent. Do different kinds of German make difference with Bavarian and Prussian, etc?

(I don't know how Swedes pronounce "sauna", but I doubt it's the correct way, because modern Sweden's Swedish doesn't even have diphthongs, really. And they commonly misspell Finnish names with diphthongs - that is, almost all Finnish names. Aaaaaargh! It's second in irritation-o-meter only to spelling ä with ae and ö with oe. Guys, if you can't use the dots, just write a and o instead. Otherwise you get name monsters like Vaeinaemoeinen, Jaeaeskelaeinen or Haeyhae...)

But every word you say today
Gets twisted 'round some other way
And they'll hurt you if they think you've lied


dernwyn
Forum Admin / Moderator


Oct 14 2012, 2:04am

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Isn't it a mess? [In reply to] Can't Post

The English language! It's such a mash of local dialects and various other languages, then over the centuries the pronunciation has gotten "lazy".

And it was the Professor's specialty. I'd love to hear him tell us all about it, and how it evolved!

(Personally, I like German, where everything that's written is actually pronounced.)


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"I desired dragons with a profound desire"






PattyJB
Rivendell


Oct 14 2012, 3:16am

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Is Legolas wearing greaves? [In reply to] Can't Post

In fact, Thranduil and Elrond may be, too. Costuming gods heard my fervent pleas for more leather on the elves! After all, Legolas is the elf that inspired me to learn what pauldrons are!





Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Oct 14 2012, 3:40am

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That's part of what's so great about it [In reply to] Can't Post

It is a true living language.


Maiarmike
Grey Havens


Oct 14 2012, 3:49am

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Thranduil is definitely one elegant looking elf. [In reply to] Can't Post

Cool crown too.

Elrond in battle gear? Yeah, that's badass.

"I warn you, if you bore me, I shall take my revenge"
--J.R.R. Tolkien


Faenoriel
Tol Eressea


Oct 14 2012, 10:51am

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Your vowels are like an unruly herd of bad behaving kids // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

But every word you say today
Gets twisted 'round some other way
And they'll hurt you if they think you've lied


dernwyn
Forum Admin / Moderator


Oct 14 2012, 12:28pm

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the "ough"s and "augh"s and "igh"s and "ogh"s? Terrors! Laugh

No wonder one of our popular pastimes is the spelling contest...Tongue


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"I desired dragons with a profound desire"






aifeme
Rivendell


Oct 14 2012, 8:45pm

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Is Thranduil a fantasy drag queen? [In reply to] Can't Post

He looks like it to me...Crazy


Padfoot
Bree


Oct 15 2012, 8:40am

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Dialects [In reply to] Can't Post


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The English language! It's such a mash of local dialects and various other languages, then over the centuries the pronunciation has gotten "lazy".

And it was the Professor's specialty. I'd love to hear him tell us all about it, and how it evolved!

(Personally, I like German, where everything that's written is actually pronounced.)


I wish it were! Wink

Believe me, German can be as much a mash of different languages and local dialects as English. Wink (or any other language, I think).

I come from a rural area, where in about 20 villages 20 different dialects are being spoken. Tongue (some of them don't even sound similar...) Mostly by the elder people, though. Most of the younger people still can understand the dialects, but stick to speaking standard German.

My sister and I grew up bi-lingual (dialect at home, standard German in kindergarten and school). This proved quite helpful when we started learning the foreign languages in school.

I think that pronounciation gets "lazy" over centuries is a general problem in languages. Also, many languages influence each other. You'd be surprised how much English you'd find in standard German by now, even though some of it may have a completely different meaning in German!


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Fardragon
Rohan

Oct 15 2012, 9:05am

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Linguistic drift isn't laziness. [In reply to] Can't Post

It's something that happens naturally to all languages, and can only be slowed by a dictatorial central authority (like the French have).

A Far Dragon is the best kind...


Misto
Lorien

Oct 15 2012, 12:54pm

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... that reminds me of a few classmates I had whose first foreign language was German. Because the dialect spoken in rural communities of my home area has next to nothing to do with German.Laugh But at least it's only dialect - I lived somewhat close to the Danish border for years and the average local gathering would have people talking in three different officially acknowledged languages... none of them German. Boy, did I ever feel out of place!


dave_lf
Gondor

Oct 15 2012, 1:17pm

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And why your language is so full of consonant clusters?



Hey! Those consonant cluster are why we can play Scrabble.

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