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Valandil ed Imladris
Lorien


Oct 11 2012, 11:32pm

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yes, for example [In reply to] Can't Post

the scene, where Gandalf is looking for advice and Saruman comes down his stairs. He is then placed in front of a miniature that looks completely real.

The most astonishing miniature for me is rivendell, after all.


Bumblingidiot
Rohan

Oct 12 2012, 2:34am

Post #27 of 38 (334 views)
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You can tell it's artificial [In reply to] Can't Post

because there'll be a load of blokes/gals sitting in front of you eating popcorn and possibly one holding a tray of ice creams. I don't mind a bit of artifice showing, as long as the result - colours particularly - is beautiful. (And as long as Mr Jackson hasn't superimposed the green screen over the entire film, as he apparently did with the FOTR Bluray release).


GothmogTheBalrog
Rivendell


Oct 12 2012, 2:52am

Post #28 of 38 (316 views)
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I enjoy watching movies. [In reply to] Can't Post

In fact, I probably spend too much time watching movies. Time that could be used to practice fencing or building with Legos. But that's beside the point. My point is that you have to suspend reality while watching a movie. Pretend it's real and you're a fly on the wall or whatever. Stop freaking about the effects and just feel!

"It was like a great shadow, in the middle of which was a dark form, of man shape maybe, yet greater; and a power and terror seemed to be in it and go before it." ~FotR


totoro
Lorien

Oct 12 2012, 5:14am

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I tend to let myself get immersed [In reply to] Can't Post

I had a hard time with the cave troll, though, because he looked nothing like a real cave troll. :)


Fertlthewhite
Bree


Oct 12 2012, 5:30am

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just wait for the final product... [In reply to] Can't Post

see, everything can be changed or be enhanced:

http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/554355_539180826107765_2036758354_n.jpg


Mr. Arkenstone (isaac)
Grey Havens


Oct 12 2012, 6:48am

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Not that first shot actually [In reply to] Can't Post

But some of the fight with the Ents when water cames in and is swiping orcs towards the holes in Isengard, those orc construction falling dwon look IMO very very cheap

I can not guarantee his safety - understood...
Nor will I be responsible for his fate - Doh!


Fardragon
Rohan

Oct 12 2012, 7:30am

Post #32 of 38 (322 views)
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A strange thing about CGI [In reply to] Can't Post

If you are used to looking at it it's easy to spot, even if you don't know quite how. But if you aren't familiar with it, it looks completely real.

My mother (age 79) upon watching Avatar: "Where did they find all those really tall actors?"

A Far Dragon is the best kind...


Mr. Arkenstone (isaac)
Grey Havens


Oct 12 2012, 7:42am

Post #33 of 38 (292 views)
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lovely [In reply to] Can't Post

Smile

I can not guarantee his safety - understood...
Nor will I be responsible for his fate - Doh!


GothmogTheBalrog
Rivendell


Oct 12 2012, 3:51pm

Post #34 of 38 (225 views)
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How do you know what a real Cave Troll looks like? [In reply to] Can't Post


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I had a hard time with the cave troll, though, because he looked nothing like a real cave troll. :)


"It was like a great shadow, in the middle of which was a dark form, of man shape maybe, yet greater; and a power and terror seemed to be in it and go before it." ~FotR


Kendalf
Rohan

Oct 12 2012, 6:42pm

Post #35 of 38 (264 views)
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These films may be TOO gorgeous... [In reply to] Can't Post


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Bilbo´s shoot looking upwards in Rivendell is awesome and so beautifull but I still can notice that Martin is on a completely greenscreen scenario.

Personally, I'm not that irked by noticing that it's green screen. To be honest, I quite enjoy being able to spot how shots have been composed as it gives me an insight into, and admiration of, the movie-making process. Quite how someone can sit down in a cinema to watch films involving goblins, dragons, huge flaming eye-balls, lava-beasts, 10-storey elephants, tree-top villages, cataclysmic battles and shape-shifters and insist that everything look like it was filmed for real is beyond me.

What does worry me is that Jackson will have used the fact that much of the films are being shot using green screen to polish his imagery to within an inch of its life and that he'll end up presenting us with scenes so heart-breakingly beautiful, so gob-smackingly perfect that'll they'll be rendered completely unbelievable.

I don't want the sheen that I think I'm detecting. I don't want films so utterly, utterly gorgeous that they're utterly, utterly sterile. Unsure


(This post was edited by Kendalf on Oct 12 2012, 6:45pm)


Elenorflower
Gondor


Oct 12 2012, 9:35pm

Post #36 of 38 (218 views)
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I like gorgeous, gorgeous works for me. [In reply to] Can't Post

Its 'real' I dont like. I dont want it to look unfantastic, if you get my drift?


burgahobbit
Rohan


Oct 13 2012, 1:41pm

Post #37 of 38 (180 views)
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I see what you mean [In reply to] Can't Post

But I never actually noticed it until I looked down at his feet during the trailer. I think what others are saying is right though and it will be fixed by the time the film is released. Smile


sphdle1
Gondor


Oct 13 2012, 9:42pm

Post #38 of 38 (328 views)
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Just took a look [In reply to] Can't Post

Wow, that is an awesome looking scene...

sphdle1

"The last words Albus Dumbledore spoke to the pair of us?
Harry is the best hope we have. Trust him."

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