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Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Oct 9 2012, 4:40pm

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Heh, quite an exhaustive analysis! ;P [In reply to] Can't Post

We'll see how it plays out on-screen. It's far from being the thing I'm most concerned over with these films. ;)

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2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!


grammaboodawg
Immortal


Oct 9 2012, 4:41pm

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*shiver* This is great! [In reply to] Can't Post

And the other posters on that site are making me giddy! I would love to see Radagast and Treebeard in a stare-down! Fantastic Stuff!



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Magpie
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Oct 9 2012, 4:45pm

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chalk it up to my hobbies [In reply to] Can't Post

the May Day hat was just one manifestation of my interest in creating realistic, natural, and (at times) fantasy tableaus. I was always adding little odd touches to things like spider webbing and little insects crawling around, etc.

I never thought of poop, though. As someone else said, that seems kind of PJ-ish.

(and how often do we all get to say poop over and over again with abandon like a 2nd grader!)


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Patty
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Oct 9 2012, 4:46pm

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Be at one with the animals. Be at one with the poop... [In reply to] Can't Post

yeah....no.

But I'm with ya. If it's just dried it isn't too bad. Fresh, on the other hand, well, that's just wrong.Smile

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Magpie
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Oct 9 2012, 4:49pm

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well *I* wouldn't be that at one with the animals! [In reply to] Can't Post

I don't mean to give that impression.

;-)

but I do think they're portraying Radagast as slightly batty. He's gone native.


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Patty
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Oct 9 2012, 4:54pm

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2nd grader? [In reply to] Can't Post

I took my teenage grandpatty to the G.I. specialist and that's what the doctor called it!Cool

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Magpie
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Oct 9 2012, 4:56pm

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but did he enjoy using the word [In reply to] Can't Post

you have to say it and then giggle teehee....

There's a little girl in me giggling every time I get to say POOP right now.


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Patty
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Oct 9 2012, 4:59pm

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She is foreign (I believe Indian) and I suspect... [In reply to] Can't Post

poop is easier for her to make herself understood than number 2 or something like that. Now, "number 2" makes ME laugh.Sly

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Apatcha
The Shire


Oct 9 2012, 6:00pm

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Maybe, but [In reply to] Can't Post

You're right it might be unnecessary atribute to his character, but I am really excited and looking forward the bird family he's supposed to host under his hat. They could give us wonderful artistic feeling on screen and maybe make it up a little.

That's what Bilbo Baggins hates!
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Lightice
Lorien

Oct 9 2012, 10:00pm

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In order for it to dry, it must have been fresh at some point. [In reply to] Can't Post


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yeah....no.

But I'm with ya. If it's just dried it isn't too bad. Fresh, on the other hand, well, that's just wrong.Smile


That's just the way it is. If you actually have a lot of dealings with birds, you are going to be covered in bird poop quickly enough. Zoo employees and such people have the luxury of showers, but Radagast lives on the edges of Mirkwood, far from any major source of water. He's just learned to cope. Anyway, he's meant to be portrayed as a guy who has as little to do with people as possible, and has little interest in social niceties like proper hygiene.


Reptile
Rivendell


Oct 10 2012, 2:40am

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I think he may have gone round the bend [In reply to] Can't Post

I agree with all this, and I think it kind of points to him having gone round the bend, as they say, sort of loosing his connection with the world of men and elves and dwarves. He's turning away from all that fighting and turmoil and towards nature; sort of reminds me of the huorns in Fanghorn.

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Sinister71
Tol Eressea


Oct 10 2012, 12:31pm

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Still pretty disgusting and unnecessary, plus it really doesn't add anything to the character IMO other than the gross factor // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Patty
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Oct 10 2012, 2:14pm

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The gross factor... [In reply to] Can't Post

is so PJ.

It's something I'd rather he'd left out too, but I can live with it. Crazy

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DanielLB
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Oct 10 2012, 2:32pm

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Perhaps it serves as an important plot detail? [In reply to] Can't Post

Perhaps it's so crusty and hard that it deflects a Ringwraith sword, shattering it into tiny pieces?

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painjoiker
Grey Havens


Oct 10 2012, 2:40pm

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Spot on! // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Sinister71
Tol Eressea


Oct 10 2012, 3:37pm

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The counter part to a Morgul blade huh? [In reply to] Can't Post

Crazy

Still think its terrible and tacky. And surely not a way to treat one of the Istari. I mean I'll live with it there's no choice but whether I think its good or not is another story.


Lightice
Lorien

Oct 10 2012, 4:36pm

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I really don't see a problem. [In reply to] Can't Post


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Still think its terrible and tacky. And surely not a way to treat one of the Istari. I mean I'll live with it there's no choice but whether I think its good or not is another story.

Honestly, I really don't see what the problem is, or how there's even any kind of gross factor to begin with. It's only a small visual element that I would have probably entirely missed if poop-obsessed people wouldn't have kept pointing it out. I also don't see how it's inappropriate for one of the Istari. Did you fail to notice the numerous times Gandalf was described as a dirty beggar by people who aren't so fond of him?

It's just something that emphasizes Radagast's disinterest in social affairs, as well as his connection to birds; you can't prevent even the tamest bird from pooping all over you, which is why actual parrot owners rarely allow them to perch on their shoulders. Why such a big deal is made out of this miniscule visual element, I have no idea.


DanielLB
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Oct 10 2012, 4:41pm

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It's less offensive than Bifur's axe. [In reply to] Can't Post

And less irritating than Denethor's film characterisation. It's a tiny detail, that will be swamped by other things we all dislike. Wink

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(This post was edited by DanielLB on Oct 10 2012, 4:45pm)


Sinister71
Tol Eressea


Oct 10 2012, 4:44pm

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Oh it hasn't replaced Bifur's axe [In reply to] Can't Post

I still think that's awful as well... just adding it to the list Tongue


DanielLB
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Oct 10 2012, 4:46pm

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That was supposed to be swamped, rather than swapped. Oops! / [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Oct 10 2012, 6:06pm

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Personally, I mind Bifur's axe much less [In reply to] Can't Post

PJ's take on Dwarves has been really goofy since TTT (of which I'm not a fan, but that's another issue)...while Radagast is an immortal Angelic spirit...with yuck on his head! Tongue

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!

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