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Rings of Power

elevorn
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Oct 4 2012, 6:24pm

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Working on a bit of fan fiction for some fun I have been looking over info on the rings of power and I am struck by a question. Why did the three rings of the Elves lose their power. they were not touched by Sauron, they were not controlled by him in any way. So why when the one was destroyed and Sauron left as a shadow of memory to gnaw at himself, did the rings of the Elves also fade? I have my own theories but thought this would be fun to discuss.



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DanielLB
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Oct 4 2012, 6:28pm

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...But he, (Sauron) finding that he was betrayed and that the Elves were not deceived, was filled with wrath; and he came against them with open war, demanding that all the rings should be delivered to him. since the Elven-smiths could not have attained to their making without his lore and counsel. But the Elves fled from him; three of their rings they saved, and bore them away, and hid them.

Now these were the Three that had last been made, and they possessed the greatest powers. Narya, Nenya, and Vilya, they were named, the Rings of Fire, and of Water, and of Air, set with ruby and adamant and sapphire; and of all the Elven-rings Sauron most desired to possess them, for those who had them in their keeping could ward off the decays of time and postpone the weariness of the world. But Sauron could not discover them, for they were given into the hands of the Wise, who concealed them and never again used them openly while Sauron kept the Ruling Ring. Therefore the Three remained unsullied, for they were forged by Celebrimbor alone, and the hand of Sauron had never touched them; yet they also were subject to the One.While the three were unsullied, they were still made with knowledge obtained from Sauron. Since they were forged with Sauron's teachings, he was able to weave subservience to any Ring of Power made with that knowledge, into the Power of the One.


I think this suggests that the Three Rings were subservient to Sauron and the One Ring. Once the power of the One was gone, so was the power for the Three.

Or something like that. Tongue

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elevorn
Lorien


Oct 4 2012, 6:41pm

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That was my line of thinking, after reading all of that recently. I should have known you would have the quote ready at hand lol. They faded because the knowledge they were made with was destroyed with the One ring. there has to be more to this though. Sauron learned all of these things from someone else right(Morgoth/Melkor)? So why when he was thrown from the world did Sauron's power remain and grow so much?

I'm starting a reread of the SIL today so I'm sure my answers will be found there. Still though i always come away with "questions, questions that need answers."



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Felagund
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Oct 15 2012, 9:01am

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Another helpful quote from the chapter of The Silmarillion, quoted earlier by DanielLB:

"...but secretly Sauron made One Ring to rule all the others, and their power was bound up with it, to be subject wholly to it and to last only so long as it too should last."

This presumably explains why Sauron had to spend so much of his native power during the forging process - it wasn't just about enhancing his own power but also about binding, irrevocably, other instruments of power effectively to him.

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