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Article: Why Three Hobbit Films is a Good Thing:


Oct 1 2012, 3:55pm

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Article: Why Three Hobbit Films is a Good Thing: Can't Post


There is a fair amount of bad language, but it's funny and makes some good points.

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Oct 1 2012, 4:12pm

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hey [In reply to] Can't Post

Can you make a URL with the link pretty please?

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Oct 1 2012, 4:15pm

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The comparison between Bilbo and Frodo is fair, I guess... [In reply to] Can't Post

Although Bilbo has his whiny moments too.

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Oct 1 2012, 4:30pm

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Oct 1 2012, 5:30pm

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I agree abot the final 1/3 of the Book.. [In reply to] Can't Post

Seemed just a Montag of major Events.
TBO5A. .was rushed..so much material handled in briief description?
This Movie version will finally be the Big Payoff that the book lacked.

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Oct 1 2012, 6:04pm

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Oct 2 2012, 12:13am

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And just as many bad ones... [In reply to] Can't Post

Uhhh...right. I can forgive him for being (obviously) an LOTR movie-firster--he has to be right? To make so many ignorant points--esp about Frodo--but doggone it, do some #4%&*3 reasearch!!!
And we had to put up with it for 12 hrs not 9--he still hasn't seen the EE's?!

Black Breathalizer

Oct 2 2012, 5:44pm

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7 reasons why 3 films was always the way to go [In reply to] Can't Post

While the article was written a tad tongue-in-cheek, the author's points were, for the most part, all valid:

Point 1 - The same amount of stuff happens. While I'm not quite sure I would agree with that point, I do agree with the author that if Tolkien had written the Hobbit after writing the LOTR, it would have been a much longer tale. So it's unfair in my opinion (given the way Jackson is going to tell the tale) to use the length of the novel as a reason to criticize the decision to make three movies.

Point 2 - Bilbo vs. Frodo.
The author jokingly picked on Frodo but the truth of the matter is that Bilbo has always been The Quintessential Hobbit. With all due respect to all of the other Hobbit characters Tolkien invented, none of them compare to Bilbo Baggins. And IMHO, Martin Freeman is THE BEST possible actor to play Bilbo. We should not underestimate what depth, humor, and "sizzle" Martin Freeman will bring to the role over the course of three films.

Point 3 - Riddles in the Dark. The notion that Bilbo's encounter with Gollum could--and should--anchor one of the movies is a valid one. It is so central to the LOTR, you can't afford to hurry it. It needs to stand on its own. When you think of all the stuff that would have been crammed into one film in order to get Bilbo and the dwarves to Laketown, it would have given the journey a Cliff's Notes feel.

Point 4 - Gandalf's Journey. Three films insures that this intriguing 'untold' part of the Hobbit tale gets a fair shake. While we would have gotten it all in EEs, the theatrical version was going to be a challenge for Peter to capture the essence of the Battle of Dol Guilder.

Point 5 - More Room to Breath. As great and as iconic as some of the scenes from Jackson's ROTK film were, in retrospect, most lovers of the films would agree that the final film was 1) too rushed at times (particularly Frodo & Sam's journey through Mordor); and 2) too long. Three films will allow for more character development and will feel less "rushed." This will be particularly true for: 1) the Woodland Realm; 2) Laketown; and 3) Dol Gulder

Point 6 - Dwarves. This is a great point. The playfulness of Tolkien's 'children's tale' will come across through Jackson's depiction of the dwarves. Since they all have individual looks and personalities, the focus of the journey will be as much about the personal dynamics of the Company as it is about the destination itself. I love the FOTR and the journey of the Fellowship across Middle Earth, but it's focus was, quite naturally, on Frodo and the Ring with precious little attention paid (given the need for speed) to the group's interactions with one another. Three movies will allow the audience to get to know the dwarves better. The more pronounced comical, 'rag-tag' nature of the band of dwarves will pay more emotionally powerful dividends by the time we reach the second half of film two and all of film three.

I want to add a seventh point:

Point 7 - "Riddles in the Dark 2" - Three films will also allow the film makers to bookend the Riddles in the Dark of Film 1 with a reprise in Film 3 between Bilbo and Smaug. I'm willing to bet that this iconic scene from the book is going to be greatly expanded with the exchanges between the Hobbit and the dragon feeling like a dual in the same way Bilbo's riddles game was with Gollum. It was no accident that Benedict Cumberbatch, the actor signed to play the character of Smaug, has incredible onscreen chemistry with Martin Freeman. They have a history working together on the hit BBC show, Sherlock. I recall reading somewhere that Jackson was excited to use their chemistry and familiarity with one another.

(This post was edited by Black Breathalizer on Oct 2 2012, 5:49pm)


Oct 2 2012, 6:08pm

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Agree with this 100% [In reply to] Can't Post

Great synopsis. It's very interesting how a change in language can change one's reaction to a piece of writing.


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