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Ok first post, first speculation

SgtZimm
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Oct 17 2012, 9:13pm


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The second film will end with the death of Smaug. The thing to remember is that although these films are based on The Hobbit, they are a prequel trilogy to LOTR & will be similar in format. Smaug like Saruman, will be defeated in the second film. Sauron will be defeated in the 3rd. The difference to the LOTR movie trilogy is our main protagonist (Bilbo) will be unaware of the big picture. Dol Guldor/white council is not a sub plot tacked onto the Hobbit, it is the mesh that will bind it all together as the 3 film arc. The great elves and wizzards fighting sauron...how could that not be the climax?


I am sure all respect will be made to the book... but yeah liberties will be taken and this is going to be something much grander in scope than we were to get in the 2 film format.

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New informations about the ending of movie one *Spoiler* TariArFiniel93 Send a private message to TariArFiniel93 Sep 27 2012, 7:28am
    I wonder how much compensation WB has had to pay out? Fardragon Send a private message to Fardragon Sep 27 2012, 8:11am
        Depends what they have committed to in the contracts Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Sep 27 2012, 10:18am
    What about the making of books LoremIpsum Send a private message to LoremIpsum Sep 27 2012, 8:32am
        Let's hope it's too late to change the books! DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 27 2012, 8:58am
        Hope they don't recall the books! Carne Send a private message to Carne Sep 27 2012, 2:01pm
    End after the eagle rescue? DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 27 2012, 8:57am
        So is Laketown Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 28 2012, 12:24am
    ??? Durin the Deathless Send a private message to Durin the Deathless Sep 27 2012, 12:20pm
        The climax will probably be the rescue... Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Sep 27 2012, 12:28pm
            Yeah that's what I'm hoping for burgahobbit Send a private message to burgahobbit Sep 27 2012, 12:36pm
            The end will probably be a shot of the all the company DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 27 2012, 1:27pm
                Perhaps... Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Sep 27 2012, 1:52pm
                Nice! Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Sep 27 2012, 3:11pm
            I'm with you! grinman Send a private message to grinman Sep 27 2012, 4:58pm
                How about DOS starting from the perspective of Beorn DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 27 2012, 5:05pm
                    Oh, I like that Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 28 2012, 12:29am
                        That's exactly what I was thinking! DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 28 2012, 7:34am
                    Windows got rid of DOS some years ago Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Sep 28 2012, 12:33am
                I like the reintroduction of dwarves idea... Eye's on Guard Send a private message to Eye's on Guard Sep 27 2012, 5:06pm
    This still hurts me. Faenoriel Send a private message to Faenoriel Sep 27 2012, 1:10pm
    "Good news everyone! SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Sep 27 2012, 1:54pm
        I've thought about this too Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Sep 27 2012, 4:41pm
        Shouldn't the filming progress have been more controlled this time? Faenoriel Send a private message to Faenoriel Sep 27 2012, 5:34pm
            The ending scene will be... lidlessEye Send a private message to lidlessEye Sep 27 2012, 6:38pm
                They better save that ending scene for TAB! XD // Faenoriel Send a private message to Faenoriel Sep 27 2012, 6:40pm
        And a movie titled The Desolation of Smaug Muireadhaigh Send a private message to Muireadhaigh Sep 27 2012, 6:46pm
            It's all part of the desolation though :-) / DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 27 2012, 6:47pm
            I'm actually not certain we'll see Smaug (or see our heroes see Smaug) in Film 2... Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Sep 27 2012, 7:08pm
                good point... lidlessEye Send a private message to lidlessEye Sep 27 2012, 8:45pm
                I hope that the Eyrie won't be the end Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Sep 27 2012, 9:34pm
                    Warner Brother's specifically updated the movie scroll DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 27 2012, 9:37pm
                    Why do you say Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Sep 27 2012, 10:27pm
                        Not good. Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Sep 27 2012, 11:11pm
                            Well there are quite a few relatively in depth threads Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Sep 27 2012, 11:19pm
                    Film 2 does NOT have to deal with Smaug's SPOILERS Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 28 2012, 12:35am
                        I agree totoro Send a private message to totoro Sep 28 2012, 4:16am
                            You are right Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Sep 29 2012, 1:15pm
                        The hell? Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Sep 28 2012, 12:59pm
                            How do you know what the pacing is like? Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 28 2012, 3:54pm
                                Simple. Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Sep 28 2012, 4:48pm
                                    Merchandising and Film-making Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Sep 28 2012, 5:21pm
                                    I rather suspect Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Sep 28 2012, 8:01pm
                                    Yes, I understand your points Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 28 2012, 8:39pm
                                        My apologies, but I can't see how I could have answered differently. Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Sep 28 2012, 9:40pm
                                            Right Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 29 2012, 12:16am
                                                There are unyielding narrative requirements to consider that seem to be ignored here a lot. Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Sep 29 2012, 1:33am
                                                    I agree Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 29 2012, 3:18am
                                                        Really? Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Sep 29 2012, 1:05pm
                                                            Seems a tad hyperbolic Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 29 2012, 3:37pm
                                                                I disagree Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Sep 29 2012, 4:37pm
                                                                    It could go either way but Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Sep 29 2012, 4:57pm
                                                                    I thought the same, until we learned AUJ would be cut early DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 29 2012, 5:03pm
                                                                        Unless they are planning further splits, e.g. TH 2.1 and TH 2.2 SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Sep 29 2012, 5:36pm
                                                                            Let the speculation of titles begin! DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 29 2012, 5:58pm
                                                                            yes me too Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Sep 29 2012, 6:34pm
                                                                                Beorn is not in film 1 Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 29 2012, 7:13pm
                                                                    Don't be so sure Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 29 2012, 7:00pm
                                                                        Time will tell! Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Sep 29 2012, 7:20pm
                                                                            Perhaps Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 29 2012, 7:26pm
                                                                This is sounding crazier every minute... Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Sep 29 2012, 5:29pm
                                                                    You make some good points. Estel78 Send a private message to Estel78 Sep 29 2012, 5:36pm
                                                                    I was furious when I went to see Waiting for Godot..... Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Sep 29 2012, 5:46pm
                                                                    Never said Smaug would *spoilers* Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 29 2012, 7:09pm
                                                                        If this was just two movies you might have a point, but not in a trilogy Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Sep 29 2012, 7:41pm
                                                                            Well Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 29 2012, 7:44pm
                                                                            Personally speaking Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Sep 29 2012, 8:39pm
                                                                                Agreed - I think Smaug deserves his own film DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 29 2012, 8:45pm
                                                                                    yes me too Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Sep 29 2012, 8:57pm
                                                                                    Not sure I follow that Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Sep 29 2012, 9:16pm
                                                                                        It depends when one thinks Smaug should appear DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 29 2012, 9:23pm
                                                                                        You are missing something. Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Sep 30 2012, 11:44am
                                                                                            Hmm not sure I agree with that. Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Sep 30 2012, 12:20pm
                                                                                                Take this into consideration: Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Sep 30 2012, 12:39pm
                                                                                                    So we have two further arguments here Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Sep 30 2012, 12:58pm
                                                                                                        So what is the climax for film 2? // Estel78 Send a private message to Estel78 Sep 30 2012, 1:14pm
                                                                                                            Who knows? Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Sep 30 2012, 2:46pm
                                                                                                            Indeed Phibbus Send a private message to Phibbus Sep 30 2012, 2:53pm
                                                                                                            The climax of DoS Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Sep 30 2012, 5:58pm
                                                                                                            Ok first post, first speculation SgtZimm Send a private message to SgtZimm Oct 17 2012, 9:13pm
                                                                                                        ... Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Sep 30 2012, 4:10pm
                                                                                                            *Scratches head* Lacrimae Rerum Send a private message to Lacrimae Rerum Sep 30 2012, 4:17pm
                                                                                                                I never really thought of it as a climax DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 30 2012, 4:29pm
                                                                                            I agree 100% Lightice Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Sep 30 2012, 2:43pm
                                                                                            Introducing a brand new character (Beorn) at the end of a film Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 30 2012, 4:49pm
                                                                                                Again, see the LotR for examples. Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Sep 30 2012, 10:05pm
                                                                                                    Indeed Lightice Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Sep 30 2012, 10:26pm
                                                                    --> some personal comments edited out of this sub-thread Altaira Send a private message to Altaira Sep 29 2012, 8:27pm
                                                                I disagree about the split-point Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Sep 29 2012, 7:06pm
                                                                    That is possible Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 29 2012, 7:12pm
                                                                        I wouldn't start Film 3 with Laketown Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Sep 29 2012, 7:17pm
                                                                            Agreed Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 29 2012, 7:22pm
                                                                                That's too much Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Sep 29 2012, 7:26pm
                                                                                    Not a bad scenario Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Sep 29 2012, 7:27pm
                                                                                    I like it... Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Sep 30 2012, 11:42pm
                                                                                        I have no doubts Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Oct 1 2012, 1:05am
                                                    Satisfactory break? Phibbus Send a private message to Phibbus Sep 29 2012, 1:17pm
                                                        Makes a great deal of sense SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Sep 29 2012, 9:34pm
                                                    climaxes Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Sep 29 2012, 1:54pm
                    I like that ending too Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Sep 29 2012, 1:09pm
        better than the 1978 Lord of the Rings There&ThereAgain Send a private message to There&ThereAgain Sep 27 2012, 7:07pm
            Strange, I'd thought Bakshi's version HAD been marketed as "Part 1" of LotR...? Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Sep 27 2012, 7:09pm
                Nope dave_lf Send a private message to dave_lf Sep 27 2012, 7:27pm
    Oh well, this is not surprising.. Maylily Send a private message to Maylily Sep 27 2012, 2:19pm
    Yet more evidence that AUJ will be 2hrs sycorax82 Send a private message to sycorax82 Sep 27 2012, 3:12pm
        There have been some good posts explaining why it will still be at least 2:30... Eye's on Guard Send a private message to Eye's on Guard Sep 27 2012, 3:59pm
        Rubbish Spaldron Send a private message to Spaldron Sep 27 2012, 4:11pm
            It's not rubbish! Avnar Send a private message to Avnar Sep 27 2012, 11:37pm
    Hmmm... I don't see the story you are referring to.// Owain Send a private message to Owain Sep 27 2012, 4:07pm
        Looks like it's been taken down! / DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 27 2012, 4:19pm
    So now we know that Bard would have been in film 1, don't we? burgahobbit Send a private message to burgahobbit Sep 27 2012, 8:30pm
    I wonder where people would rank merchandizing in importance Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Sep 27 2012, 9:30pm

 
 
 

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