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MANY MISSING THINGS: Top 25 Gems Absent from the Trailer!

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Sep 26 2012, 2:15pm

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MANY MISSING THINGS: Top 25 Gems Absent from the Trailer! Can't Post

The new Hobbit trailer, judging by various responses from fans and non-fans alike, is a resplendent thing.  I remember the phrase "an embarrassment of riches" being applied to The Fellowship of the Ring in an early review back in 2001 - and certainly that phrase fits here. It's only a trailer, but man, is it stuffed to the brim! There are even five alternate endings, each offering more laughs and delights.

This second big trailer release gives away SO MUCH of Peter Jackson's sprawling adaptation, I'm left wondering why the Bag End kitchen sink wasn't thrown in as well...

But actually there's quite a bit missing.

There's much more in the nooks and crannies of this filmic Middle-earth and P.J. knows it... he's just serving up a first appetizer here. But I can't forget Gandalf's words: "Many folk like to know beforehand what is to be set on the table; but those who have laboured to prepare the feast like to keep their secret; for wonder makes the words of praise louder."

Here is our grand list of the TOP 25 MISSING THINGS we *really* wanted to see in the trailer but did not:

  1. First and foremost we all missed Howard Shore's score. Without his music, I was left with an even stronger desire to hear new themes and motifs around these beloved characters. Will Thorin have his own theme like Isildur did, becoming an iconic tune for the entire new Trilogy?

  2. Items that clearly connect father/son Gloin/Gimli. It would help connect the characters in a very real way to see specific weapons or an article of clothing perhaps that is distinctly a father & son shared item.

  3. Anything from Mirkwood Elves/Thranduil's kingdom or his relatives. Nope, no Orlando Bloom to be seen here, nor the lovely Evangeline Lilly as new character Tauriel. These characters are victims of the shift from two up to three movies, and the editing of the whole narrative has shifted them to Film 2.

  4. The Rivendell Elves singing/ performing (featured appearance by Figwit). I'm a fan of Flight of the Conchords, but not as much as a fan of Brett McKenzie's genius songwriting for The Muppets. I suppose someone might have seen him in the background somewhere but I just want to see him pull out the lyre and *sing*.

  5. Saruman -- where the heck is he?  Nothing is shown of the White Council, and I miss my nefarious White Wizard.

  6. The Key that goes with that remarkable Dwarven Map. I just want to check out the cool design WETA has come up with.

  7. Any fleck of fire or flame from Smaug. The infamous dragon is not in evidence besides his name being mentioned. Since his is the prime threat and the motivation for Thorin & Company, it would've been very appropriate to see just a tail swooshing or a shadow across the moon perhaps.

  8. The Morgul Blade that purist fans have been chittering about (such a deviation from Tolkien, gasp!). It was shown full-on at San Diego Comic-Con, but here we don't even get a glimpse.

  9. The Sackville-Bagginses, anyone? You know they want Bilbo's furniture as badly as Thorin wants that Arkenstone.

  10. Glamdring gets named yet does not glow...  Orcrist is particularly glorious as we see Thorin running through that wide shot across the wilderness.  But no glowing!  We would've really loved to see them both glow, but it seems P.J. will never show Glamdring with the same properties as Sting.

  11. Some Great Goblin dialogue, because we see only his collapsing carcass! What does Barrie Humphries *sound* like??

  12. A young Aragorn traipsing around Rivendell. Would he be introduced by Elrond to Bilbo (and thus the audience) -- or would we just see him in a lingering shot in the background?

  13. Thorin & Company walking past Weathertop (aerial footage). I figured we wouldn't get the chance to revisit Bree, but I thought it would be exceptionally neat (and good for continuity) to show them marching past Amon Sul.

  14. The glimmer of Dwarf-gold, perhaps a fuller shot of the dragon horde, maybe even a glimpse of the Arkenstone. We need to understand the Dwarves' motivations, don't we? A shot of the ultimate goal would do wonders for helping us understand the burning passion of Thorin's heart.

  15. Gandalf marking Bilbo's door with that familiar "G" rune. "I just had that painted!"

  16. Hearing the Trolls actually speak.  I love their dialogue -- it's terrifically funny and I've heard plenty of it before with the SDCC footage, too bad we don't hear them in this trailer.

  17. I know it's one of those stranger bits that makes "The Hobbit" different from "LOTR" in tone, but what about the Troll's talking purse?  Will it really say: "Ere, who are you?"

  18. The glowing Moon Letters.  Even though that glass table is very Fortress of Solitude, we missed seeing the secret message that's on the map.

  19. Bilbo's hand accidentally groping and finding the Ring in the dark. We remember it so well from the prologue of Fellowship. An iconic moment indeed.

  20. More of the giant spiders! Only one leg busting through the roof of Rhosgobel was not enough.

  21. Gandalf coincidentally meeting Thorin in Bree. Well, that would be our one-stop jaunt to the Prancing Pony...22. Someone ordering "Cold chicken and pickles!" makes me laugh every time. Hearing this makes Bilbo feel even more like a flustered short-order cook stuck in a 1940's roadside diner.23. We want to see the Gaffer working in Bilbo's garden. Even if it's just a "Howdy, Gaffer! How are the taters doing today?" from out the window.

  22. "Struck by lightning!  Struck by lightning!" Wouldn't it be a hoot if the head-butting Howdy was done to Bilbo and he cried this out... or "WHITE LIGHT!  WHITE LIGHT" like Orlando cried out remembering when Sala Baker head-butted him at Viggo's encouragement.  ou know that's where the Dwarves' head-butt comes from ;-)

  23. Peter Jackson's cameo!  Wouldn't that have been hysterical if we saw and recognized P.J. in the trailer?!


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So as you can see, our appetite for this stuff is boundless.  Our imaginations have been fueled by the wonderful material we have already seen.  As with any good marketing piece, this trailer does the heavy lifting of delivering story, purpose, characterizations, and leaves us wanting more.

Certainly, December 14th, cannot get here fast enough.

Much too hasty,
Quickbeam
(with the able assistance of TORn staffers....)


DanielLB
Immortal


Sep 26 2012, 8:28pm

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Agree with them all! [In reply to] Can't Post

I want to see all these things - though, I imagine most will come in time. Some are too hopeful, Weathertop and tra-la-lally for instance.

Smile

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painjoiker
Grey Havens


Sep 26 2012, 8:28pm

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I see this thread as a "Oh no, we didn't see the whole film in the trailer" [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm not trying to be rude, but I did not expect to see everything in the trailer :P
Just imagine if everything on that list was included...
What's left for the film then?

I agree on that there could have been a bit more white council in there, and that the trailer should have used Howard Shore's music, but the rest I'm ok with Smile

Vocalist in the semi-progressive metal band Arctic Eclipse


Otaku-sempai
Half-elven


Sep 26 2012, 8:54pm

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I was hoping to see... [In reply to] Can't Post


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Anything from Mirkwood Elves/Thranduil's kingdom or his relatives. Nope, no Orlando Bloom to be seen here, nor the lovely Evangeline Lilly as new character Tauriel. These characters are victims of the shift from two up to three movies, and the editing of the whole narrative has shifted them to Film 2.



Since we can pretty much discount seeing anything in An Unexpected Journey of Thranduil's people, I hoped to see Elrond's sons identified by name. I doubt that we will see anything of Aragorn thanks to the questions that Jackon's film-continutiy raise about his age at the time of The Hobbit.

'Thus spake Ioreth, wise-woman of Gondor: The hands of the king are the hands of a healer, and so shall the rightful king be known.' - Gandalf the White


mandel
Rivendell


Sep 27 2012, 12:03am

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I don't think it is, Painjoiker... [In reply to] Can't Post

...Just think of it as a tally of the things we can keep an eye out for when we watch the movie. Fantasies are interesting things: fantasizing can be an end in itself, even when you'd be better off not getting the thing you fantasize about Smile


Elessar
Valinor


Sep 27 2012, 12:24am

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We didn't [In reply to] Can't Post

All we did was collect things we had hoped to see or hear. One never expects to see everything in a trailer.



Elenorflower
Gondor


Sep 27 2012, 4:41pm

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yes i would love a quick glimpse [In reply to] Can't Post

of Bree and Weathertop. I am holding out for the Barrow Downs too, and maybe just maybe a little nod to Bombadil.


Istaris'staffs
Rivendell


Sep 27 2012, 6:20pm

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I hated we didn't get any flashback material [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Sep 28 2012, 12:53am

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That's what I was SURE would be in the trailer [In reply to] Can't Post

Not sure why, but I was looking forward to seeing some Thror and some Thrain in their former glory.


Elenorflower
Gondor


Sep 28 2012, 8:21pm

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I would like to see [In reply to] Can't Post

Moria in all its glory, do you think we will, what with the Balin connection?


Laitholiel_the_SeaElf
Lorien


Sep 29 2012, 4:26am

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I'll cop to that. [In reply to] Can't Post

Why yes, I did want to see everything right now. If the trailer could have just been the movie, I would have been exceptionally happy. Cool




But you are what you love,
And not what loves you back.
And I'm in love with illusions
So saw me in half.
I'm in love with tricks
So pull another rabbit out your hat.



 
 

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