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Bilbo with the ring
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Ring-Bearer
Rivendell


Sep 26 2012, 9:02pm

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That makes sense [In reply to] Can't Post

Thanks, that's a good point, and clears up some confusion.

Maybe Bilbo will be invisible, only, for as Kangi Ska has mentioned, the Ring has not yet been awoken.


'I will take it! I will take the Ring to Mordor- though, I do not know the way...'


DanielLB
Immortal


Sep 26 2012, 9:06pm

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The Ring was "awake" to some extent [In reply to] Can't Post

It abandoned Gollum, in the hope of escaping the deeps of the Misty Mountains.

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Ring-Bearer
Rivendell


Sep 26 2012, 9:08pm

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True... [In reply to] Can't Post

It wanted to be found, but it wasn't being sought as ardently by Sauron as in LOTR


'I will take it! I will take the Ring to Mordor- though, I do not know the way...'


Lacrimae Rerum
Grey Havens

Sep 26 2012, 9:46pm

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Well we can claim that [In reply to] Can't Post

But there isn't any real evidence for it.

Sauron had been seeking the ring for at least 90 years prior to TH and has his servants out scouring the Anduin for it just a couple of years before Bilbo finds it.

It's a bit of a stretch to come up with the idea he was looking for it, but not very hard.

LR


Carne
Tol Eressea

Sep 26 2012, 10:27pm

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Going by the book the ring will be used quite a lot [In reply to] Can't Post

And this just won't work on film.

Take Thranduil's crib as an example; Bilbo has the ring on for his entire stay, but in the film it would be horribly boring for the audience to just see a camera pan around for 20 minutes.

Unless they add some sort of effect (like seeing his silhouette), Bilbo is going to stay visible for most of the time. It's not about them not staying true to the book, it's just logical.


Muireadhaigh
Rivendell


Sep 27 2012, 3:06pm

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We don't see the Shadow World [In reply to] Can't Post

when Bilbo wears the ring in Fellowship. Continuity would be to not show it in The Hobbit either. Frodo sees it, but the Nazgul have been sent looking for him by then, the Ring is awake.


DanielLB
Immortal


Sep 27 2012, 3:12pm

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The Ring was awake in The Hobbit as well :-) [In reply to] Can't Post

The best explanation is that Sauron isn't actively searching for the Ring. The Ring is awake, trying to get back to Sauron, but Sauron is busy healing himself, and re-building his power.

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Muireadhaigh
Rivendell


Sep 27 2012, 4:25pm

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Yes, awake enough to leave Gollum [In reply to] Can't Post

but not awake enough to make Gollum leave the Misty Mountains. It seemed to grow in strength when the Nazgul appeoached.

Three is Company -
"When it reached the tree and was level with Frodo the horse stopped.Thr riding figure sat quite still with it's head bowed, as if listening. From inside the hood came a noise as of someone sniffing to catch an elusive scent; the ehad turned from side to side of the road.
A sudden unreasoning fear od discovery laid hold of Frodo, and he thought of his Ring. He hardly dared to breathe, and yet the desire to get it out of his pocket became so strong that he slowly began to move his hand. He felt that had only to slip it on , and then he would be safe."

And again later in the same chapter when the Black Rider returns
"The black shadow stood close to point where they had left the path, and it swayed from side to side. Frodo thought he heard the sound of snuffling. The shadow bent to the ground, and then began to crawl towards him.
Once more the desire to slip on the Ring came over Frodo; but this time it was stronger than before."


Lacrimae Rerum
Grey Havens

Sep 27 2012, 10:58pm

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Although you know this isn't the case in text? [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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