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Richard 111

willowing
Lorien

Sep 14 2012, 9:44pm

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It's a well known fact that Richard Armitage who will portray Thorin Oakenshield in the upcoming film The Hobbit has a keen interest in The Plantagenet King Richard III.

So, like the rest of the world, I myself included was surprised and excited to read about the finding of the possible remains of Richard III under a carpark.

This world breaking news item will not be lost on The cast members of The Hobbit or Peter Jackson as it is all over the website.


Ataahua
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Sep 15 2012, 12:51am

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that a site could be covered over by urban development but the stories in the earth just lay there quietly, waiting to be discovered. :)

The archaeologists have done a great job to locate the site, then to find what could be his remains.

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Kelly of Water's Edge
Lorien

Sep 15 2012, 1:17am

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is the question of the identity of the woman who was found with him. I can't imagine who she could be, since Anne is buried in Westminster Abbey, and his sisters and illegitimate daughter were all married and I'd assume buried with their husbands. The first thought that comes to mind is that maybe she was his mistress. Anne died after a battle with cancer, that had come on the heels of the death of their young son, and he was still relatively young even by late medieval standards, so it would perhaps be understandable (albeit not particularly admirable) had he sought companionship shortly after her death. Between all that going on, the murders of his nephews which almost definitely happened on his watch even if he wasn't responsible, and Henry Tudor closing in, I'd find it hard to blame him too much.

The scoliosis is interesting as well, as it would explain the exaggerated hunchback descriptions.

Even the most avid Ricardians are probably taking this news with cautious optimism. It's going to take a very long time to confirm the identity of the remains, if they are ever identified at all.


Jazmine
Tol Eressea


Sep 15 2012, 6:50pm

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The dig was only 30 miles or so from where I live, so we've had a fair amount of local press coverage.
I find it fascinating that they may have found him just a couple of weeks into the dig. I love the history surrounding that era, so will be following this with interest!



Altaira
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Sep 15 2012, 9:28pm

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Easy enough to Google, but here's a link to a pretty lengthy story for anyone who doesn't want to go looking. Fascinating stuff! Thanks for posting it, willowing. Smile


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SirDennisC
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Sep 15 2012, 10:43pm

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I've had days like this, as has King Richard III apparently.

Perchance have any rabbits died lately? (now I'm really showing my age.)



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willowing
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Sep 15 2012, 11:45pm

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There were a lot of determined people during the Reign of Henry VII These supporters of Richard III put their lives at risk for refusing to hand over any information or documents recorded during Richard's brief reign.

Today archaeologists indeed have done brilliantly to locate a burial site and in such a short space of time.


willowing
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Sep 16 2012, 12:03am

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Here is a link

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/7666278/Body-of-Richard-III-believed-found


Ataahua
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Sep 16 2012, 4:01am

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I can't find any article which mentions the remains of a woman. [In reply to] Can't Post

Can you link me to one?

Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauronís master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded b*****d with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.


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willowing
Lorien

Sep 16 2012, 6:58am

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Female bones in the plot [In reply to] Can't Post

 
Here's a link, the article is set out in timed order. The mention of a female skeleton was aired at 11.15 and is brief.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/9537600/Strong-evidence-Richard-IIIs-body-has-been-found-with-a-curved-spine.html


Elberbeth
Tol Eressea


Sep 16 2012, 3:53pm

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and I'm pretty solidly in the camp that Henry VII bears more responsibility for the princes' murder than Richard. Waiting eagerly for more info.

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