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Anyone order a copy of "The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey Annual 2013"?
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rings7
Rohan


Aug 30 2012, 3:58pm

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Thranduil looks mostly the way i expected [In reply to] Can't Post

it's just the thing on his head that i dont get. But it's fairly good.Smile


Mooseboy018
Grey Havens


Aug 30 2012, 4:28pm

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Tauriel [In reply to] Can't Post

PJ specifically said that Tauriel was Silvan. I think it was back when Evangeline Lilly was cast.


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Aug 30 2012, 4:29pm

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I think some of us are in denial of certain influences in design.// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Aug 30 2012, 5:49pm

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Tauriel is supposed to be Silvan, not Sindarin [In reply to] Can't Post

At least, that's what the promotion material as said about her.

'Thus spake Ioreth, wise-woman of Gondor: The hands of the king are the hands of a healer, and so shall the rightful king be known.' - Gandalf the White


TomthePilgrim
Rohan


Aug 30 2012, 6:02pm

Post #105 of 121 (5330 views)
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Thanx . . . that's what I being told . . . [In reply to] Can't Post

. . . by a number of people Wink

Maybe it's just me, but I was hoping for something to differentiate the two groups.


The Road goes ever on and on
Down from the door where it began
Now far ahead the Road has gone
And I must follow, if I can

"Thorin sat up with a start. 'Something is not right,' he muttered to himself as he stood up and
looked towards the mirror . . . . . . . . . 'Durin's bones', he gasped, 'what's happened to my beard?'"


shadowdog
Rohan

Aug 30 2012, 7:41pm

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At first glance [In reply to] Can't Post

I thought it was Legolas. So was that intentional????


TomthePilgrim
Rohan


Aug 30 2012, 7:50pm

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I'm betting it was . . . [In reply to] Can't Post

. . . we are also discussing the look of the Mirkwood elves on this thread:
http://newboards.theonering.net/...i?post=488348#488348

As Thranduil and Legolas are Sindarin elves, and they 'rule' over Silvan elves, my speculation is that they want similarities between Thranduil and Legolas to differentiate them from the Silvan elves, apparently Tauriel and the rest.


The Road goes ever on and on
Down from the door where it began
Now far ahead the Road has gone
And I must follow, if I can

"Thorin sat up with a start. 'Something is not right,' he muttered to himself as he stood up and
looked towards the mirror . . . . . . . . . 'Durin's bones', he gasped, 'what's happened to my beard?'"


shadowdog
Rohan

Aug 30 2012, 8:06pm

Post #108 of 121 (5129 views)
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I just can't wait [In reply to] Can't Post

For the first movie to be released so we have something substancial to discuss instead of a pair of eyebrows. Wink


DanielLB
Immortal


Aug 30 2012, 8:08pm

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I told you they would wriggle [In reply to] Can't Post

Found on tumblr!


dormouse
Half-elven


Aug 30 2012, 9:40pm

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They're not wriggling.... [In reply to] Can't Post

They're dancing! (Someone was quick!)


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Aug 30 2012, 10:11pm

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I called it! [In reply to] Can't Post

From a few days ago:

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I always pictured Thranduil [In reply to] Quote | Reply To This Post
With a massive, tall regal headdress, full of flora and perhaps some antlers. Something you might expect from a woodland king.

Would look good on Lee Pace.



PJ, GDT, Lee, Howe, and anyone else who helped design this, have the same vision of Thranduil as I do!

Though the eyebrows are a bit much...


dormouse
Half-elven


Aug 30 2012, 10:40pm

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Do you think so, Kangi.... [In reply to] Can't Post

I don't know. I think maybe we just see different things.

Antlers, for example. The antlered king from Hellboy obviously spings to mind, and I can see why, looking at the pictures. Maybe it is Guillermo's influence. On the other hand, Guillermo didn't invent the idea of an antlered headdress. In British folkore there's Herne the Hunter, who had antlers, and the Celtic god Cernunnos - and I don't doubt that other cultures have similar. I can also imagine that Weta, in devising cultural references from the Mirkwood elves, might have come up with the idea that since these elves hunt stags in the forest they might well have antlers on the walls...

And Thranduil's long blond hair is reminding some people of Lucius Malfoy and some of the prince in Hellboy - but to me it looks like Legolas, who was before either of them. (Not sure who influenced the eyebrows, though)....

I'm sure there are Guillermo influences in the designs, and Alan Lee, John Howe, Weta.... but we won't know whose is whose until we see the 'Art of' books and (I hope) EE documentaries. Maybe we won't even know then, but we'll all carry on cheerfully thinking we know! Wink


Elessar
Valinor


Aug 30 2012, 10:58pm

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Ordered this today [In reply to] Can't Post

Saw the article posted this morning and found it in-stock from amazon Canada. It shipped earlier this after noon and should have it in around 8-10 days I'd guess.


DarkJackal
Rohan


Aug 30 2012, 11:44pm

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I'll like them better... [In reply to] Can't Post

...if they do that!


Silverlode
Forum Admin / Moderator


Aug 31 2012, 1:16am

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Oh, that's easy. [In reply to] Can't Post

James and/or Charlotte Pace (Lee's parents). Wink

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(Not sure who influenced the eyebrows, though)....


Silverlode

"Of all faces those of our familiares are the ones both most difficult to play fantastic tricks with, and most difficult really to see with fresh attention. They have become like the things which once attracted us by their glitter, or their colour, or their shape, and we laid hands on them, and then locked them in our hoard, acquired them, and acquiring ceased to look at them.
Creative fantasy, because it is mainly trying to do something else [make something new], may open your hoard and let all the locked things fly away like cage-birds. The gems all turn into flowers or flames, and you will be warned that all you had (or knew) was dangerous and potent, not really effectively chained, free and wild; no more yours than they were you."
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grammaboodawg
Immortal


Aug 31 2012, 9:38am

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*spasm* My copy should be here any minute! [In reply to] Can't Post

From here on we're going to start seeing the goodies of posters, books, all good things become available :D WOOHOO!!!


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I really need these new films to take me back to, and not re-introduce me to, that magical world.




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Xanaseb
Tol Eressea


Sep 1 2012, 11:36am

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OK Thranduil is rather different from what I had imagined, but oh well... I think I'll get used to it.. the Crown is rather crazy hehe [In reply to] Can't Post

Also, his expression is ultra Vulcan-Stoic... hope all The Hobbit Elves aren't depicted like that.

Cool stuff :D

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DanielLB
Immortal


Sep 2 2012, 10:35pm

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Is anyone still visiting this thread? [In reply to] Can't Post

Some informatiom from the annual that doesn't deserve it's own thread, but should be noted. Straight from the book:


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"Unable to talk, Bifur grunts and uses hand signals to communicate."



Lacrimae Rerum
Grey Havens

Sep 2 2012, 10:38pm

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Noted and a useful confirmation! [In reply to] Can't Post

 


DanielLB
Immortal


Sep 2 2012, 10:43pm

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Atleast someone has seen it! [In reply to] Can't Post

Cool
We all suspected it, but good (or bad?) to see it confirmed.


Lacrimae Rerum
Grey Havens

Sep 2 2012, 10:45pm

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In and of itself neither to me. [In reply to] Can't Post

It's the kind of thing I think you have to see how it plays out.

LR

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