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Morgoth and all his forces during the War of Wrath vs. Emperor Palpatine and an Imperial Fleet

Istaris'staffs
Rivendell


Aug 17 2012, 5:40am

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Haha, I thought this one would be fun to think about. I think Morgoth and his Balrogs and Dragons might supersede the weapons of the empire... Maybe not though.


DanielLB
Immortal


Aug 17 2012, 7:54am

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Lightsabers and lightning bolts out of fingers may work against Jedi's [In reply to] Can't Post

But it's no match against Morgoth, Sauron, dragons, werewolves, spiders, Balrogs and vampires.


Radagast-Aiwendil
Gondor


Aug 17 2012, 9:42am

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Morgoth would win [In reply to] Can't Post

As mighty as the Emperor and his fleet is, he would do well not to offend Morgoth. And Morgoth would be right to crush him. We don't want any George Lucas creations in Middle-Earth!Wink

"Radagast is, of course, a worthy wizard, a master of shapes and changes of hue, and he has much lore of herbs and beasts, and birds are especially his friends."-Gandalf, The Lord of the Rings.


DesiringDragons
Lorien


Aug 17 2012, 12:23pm

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Morgoth because [In reply to] Can't Post

he'd have no qualms about shooting first.

Apologies for "Han shot first" reference...but not that many. ;)


Istaris'staffs
Rivendell


Aug 17 2012, 6:22pm

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So when the screams and the blood and the horror of battle take him, he would not stand and fight. He would flee, and he would be right to do so. [In reply to] Can't Post

WinkWink


Radagast-Aiwendil
Gondor


Aug 17 2012, 8:31pm

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Lol, that's exactly the line I was thinking of when I made that post! [In reply to] Can't Post

Laugh

"Radagast is, of course, a worthy wizard, a master of shapes and changes of hue, and he has much lore of herbs and beasts, and birds are especially his friends."-Gandalf, The Lord of the Rings.


Otaku-sempai
Half-elven


Aug 18 2012, 8:07pm

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Easy win for the Empire [In reply to] Can't Post


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As mighty as the Emperor and his fleet is, he would do well not to offend Morgoth. And Morgoth would be right to crush him. We don't want any George Lucas creations in Middle-Earth!Wink



The Imperial Armada, in orbit above Middle-earth.

PALPATINE: Admiral, target the area known as Thangorodrim!

FLEET ADMIRAL: Yes, sir!

PALPATINE: Have your ships turn it into glass.

"Good and ill have not changed since yesteryear; nor are they one thing among Elves and Dwarves and another among Men. It is a man's part to discern them, as much in the Golden Wood as in his own house." - Aragorn

(This post was edited by Otaku-sempai on Aug 18 2012, 8:11pm)


Noel Q. von Schneiffel
Rivendell


Aug 20 2012, 6:42pm

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Morgoth did have limited orbital capacities [In reply to] Can't Post

We know Morgoth attacked Tilion, a.k.a. the Moon, in his orbit by sending "spirits of shadow" against him (Silmarillion, Of the Sun and Moon). Tilion fended them off, though. So Morgoth did have at least limited capacities for an orbital strike, though not very formidable ones if a single Maia gave them the boot. I doubt these spirits wold have been terribly effective against interstellar battlecruisers.

So a win for the Empire, but they would have at least to do some work up there before being able to melt Thangorodrim with da laz0rs.



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Escapist
Gondor

Aug 20 2012, 6:51pm

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The last one standing would be Morgoth. [In reply to] Can't Post

 
And there would be nothing living left.

Show or do not show, there is no tell.


Istaris'staffs
Rivendell


Aug 20 2012, 10:03pm

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Ha, that's kind of like saying, "Why didn't Frodo just ride an eagle over the crack of doom?" I guess I'm assuming only ground forces here. [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Noel Q. von Schneiffel
Rivendell


Aug 21 2012, 5:53am

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In this case, the battle would go on forever [In reply to] Can't Post

Because stormtroopers and orcs are equally unable to hit anything. Evil

(And by their sheer masses they're blocking the more effective fighters from reaching the battlefield.)



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DanielLB
Immortal


Aug 21 2012, 7:08am

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So it must come down to ... [In reply to] Can't Post

Which can be cloned/created (etc.) quicker, stormtroopers or orcs? Wink


Noel Q. von Schneiffel
Rivendell


Aug 21 2012, 8:45am

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Yes, and the one who makes them quicker loses. [In reply to] Can't Post

Because he will eventually suffocate in his own troops.



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Escapist
Gondor

Aug 27 2012, 12:41am

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Only one Imperial Fleet? [In reply to] Can't Post

No Deathstar?

Okay then - maybe I shall revise my answer and say you could be right.

(This post was edited by Escapist on Aug 27 2012, 12:42am)


iandea14
Rivendell

Sep 5 2012, 6:23am

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Sorry [In reply to] Can't Post

I love anything from Middle Earth so much more but realistically The Empire has more technology and could simply orbit the planet and shoot hell down on Morgoth.


BeornBerserker
Lorien

Nov 20 2012, 2:19pm

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The empire uses the Death Star [In reply to] Can't Post

 

 
 

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