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I like the idea of putting all the endings in film4.

Escapist
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Aug 20 2012, 12:16am


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I like the idea of putting all the endings in film4. [In reply to] Can't Post

I debated whether to have Merry/Pippin first or Aragorn/Legolas/Gimli first for films 2 and 3.

I thought that the real tension surrounding Aragorn/Legolas/Gimli was during the stretch in the book where they had not heard any news of their friends yet but that most of the character arcs of the 3 hunters were not involved in that tension so I put the 3 hunters after Merry and Pippin. I thought this would lose some of the tension of the 3 hunters while amplifying the tension in Merry and Pippin's situation - with no clue about whether or not they may get rescued or survive their adventure.

I had to scratch my head a little bit about Isengard between film2 and film3. There would be some redundancy. I thought about leaving Pippin and Merry at the gate of Orthanc to finish their smoking and eating and then doing a camera perspective trick where the camera angle is from the walls for Merry and Pippin and from outside for Gandalf and company.

I like your ending with the Eagles at the Black Gate as an ending for my original film3. But for film2, I thought that after Merry and Eowyn do in the Witch-King, it might be an opportunity to show the struggles of the Wilderland theater related to Dol Guldur (although the final destruction of Dol Guldur would probably not fit until the end of film4). For film2, it might be better to just show the various realms successfully defending against an onslaught that would have been much more difficult if more of the 9 had been available to lead the battle.

So I would tweak your tweaking

Film1: same as what I had originally

Film2: same as what I had (There would be a lot more suspense without knowing that there were actually friends trying to rescue them)

Film3: same as what I had but with your Eagle ending, more focus on Rohan, and no coronation scene

Film4: same as what your tweaked version

I agree that some tension is still lost in film3 but I still think that the motivation of the 3 hunters would be compelling (but maybe that part should be shortened so as not to be boring) This would leave more space for fleshing out the situation in the kingdom of Rohan all around in film3.

I agree that the main character arcs would be a major focus but I think that there is enough material in the original books to flesh out each of the members of the fellowship quite a bit and that with a separate film for each cluster of characters, this will be easier to do. At the same time, I think there could be some cameos in film2 and film3. That way everyone would see all of their favorite characters in each movie with the exception of Frodo and Sam in film2 and film3.

Show or do not show, there is no tell.

Subject User Time
How would you structure a four film LOTR series? Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Aug 8 2012, 1:52am
    my idea tolkiennerd Send a private message to tolkiennerd Aug 8 2012, 2:40am
        So just splitting ROTK? Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Aug 8 2012, 5:14pm
    I think six films would have been perfect Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 8 2012, 4:29am
        Yes! Ruinwen Send a private message to Ruinwen Aug 8 2012, 4:36am
        Whenever this comes up... GoodGuyA Send a private message to GoodGuyA Aug 8 2012, 4:48pm
            Book 6 Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Aug 8 2012, 5:22pm
            Calm down Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 8 2012, 6:07pm
            Also, to clarify Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 8 2012, 8:45pm
                Six films would be overkill Spaldron Send a private message to Spaldron Aug 8 2012, 11:21pm
            Fellowship could end in Rivendell Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 8 2012, 8:53pm
                'Fellowship of the Ring' and 'The Ring goes South' Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Aug 8 2012, 9:31pm
                Yeah, you COULD GoodGuyA Send a private message to GoodGuyA Aug 8 2012, 11:30pm
                    Not it isn't Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 9 2012, 2:41am
                        I really do think more than four films would be pushing it. Spaldron Send a private message to Spaldron Aug 9 2012, 3:08pm
                            The plotline Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Aug 9 2012, 3:31pm
                    I think you're spot on regarding the improbability Plurmo Send a private message to Plurmo Aug 10 2012, 6:23pm
        Nice try! Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Aug 8 2012, 5:17pm
    LotR film quadrilogy Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Aug 8 2012, 7:39pm
        I really like this set up. Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Aug 9 2012, 2:14am
            The Scouring of the Shire Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Aug 9 2012, 4:38am
    For Films 3 and 4 (ROTK Parts 1 and 2) , I'd show the 'Bigger Picture'. - Hanzkaz Aug 9 2012, 7:01pm
    I wouldn't HiddenSpring Send a private message to HiddenSpring Aug 12 2012, 2:39am
    It's better portrayed in a mini series stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Aug 15 2012, 2:32pm
        Agree and disagree Unspoken_Request Send a private message to Unspoken_Request Aug 16 2012, 4:51pm
    I see 4 or 5 story threads in LOTR. Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Aug 16 2012, 5:30pm
        Interesting Unspoken_Request Send a private message to Unspoken_Request Aug 17 2012, 4:50pm
            I like the idea of putting all the endings in film4. Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Aug 20 2012, 12:16am

 
 
 

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