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SCOD - "How many did you eat?"

One Ringer
Tol Eressea


Aug 3 2012, 5:09pm

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Merry and Pippin after eating excessive lembas... well, Pippin anyways.



1.) Does Pippin come across looking ill? Bloated? Tired? Anything?

2.) Any thoughts about the lighting and balance of this shot? What sticks out to you?

3.) What colors appear most prominent here? What does it present to us as viewers and thinkers, if anything at all?

4.) Any other thoughts or comments?

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(This post was edited by One Ringer on Aug 3 2012, 5:12pm)


Magpie
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Aug 3 2012, 5:44pm

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lighting... [In reply to] Can't Post

...makes me think of early morning which is an appropriate time for starting journeys, especially long ones. The morning start of a long journey always seems to represent adventure and possibilities and uncertainties.


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Ziggy Stardust
Gondor


Aug 4 2012, 12:10am

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1.) Does Pippin come across looking ill? Bloated? Tired? Anything?

Pippin looks both ill and tired, and maybe a little guilty.

2.) Any thoughts about the lighting and balance of this shot? What sticks out to you?

The shot seems to have a blue tint.

3.) What colors appear most prominent here? What does it present to us as viewers and thinkers, if anything at all?

Blue. I'm not sure what it might be trying to present. Maybe the fading of light into darkness?

4.) Any other thoughts or comments?

Merry looks like he's scolding Pippin for eating too much.

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Escapist
Gondor

Aug 4 2012, 1:33am

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Pippin seems to be enjoying every minute of it. [In reply to] Can't Post

1.) Does Pippin come across looking ill? Bloated? Tired? Anything?
I think I see the lembas bulging out of his neck. He must have truly filled himself to overflowing.

2.) Any thoughts about the lighting and balance of this shot? What sticks out to you?
As scandalized as Merry may be, the bright light makes it hard to take it very seriously - that and Pippin's grin.

3.) What colors appear most prominent here? What does it present to us as viewers and thinkers, if anything at all?
The blue all around feels to be a part of Pippin and the light and merry scenery while Merry has contrasting orange and may not be as "cool with it".

4.) Any other thoughts or comments? [\b]
Pippin doesn't look bloated. The sharp lines of his face and angle of shoulders suggest that he is still thin. It's just the angle of his turning head and a camera moment.

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zarabia
Grey Havens


Aug 4 2012, 3:59am

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How many *did* he eat? Four, was it? [In reply to] Can't Post

1.) Does Pippin come across looking ill? Bloated? Tired? Anything?

He looks like someone who regrets that last piece of pie after Christmas dinner. But a little proud that he was able to eat it all.

2.) Any thoughts about the lighting and balance of this shot? What sticks out to you?

3.) What colors appear most prominent here? What does it present to us as viewers and thinkers, if anything at all?

I'll sort of combine these two. The colors are subdued and not very saturated, and, though there are bright glints of light, the overall lighting seems fairly low contrast. Maybe it is meant to represent the otherworldly quality of Lorien outside of Calas Galadhon (oops! spelling?) which is always shown as a world of twilight.

4.) Any other thoughts or comments?


It's a cute moment showing the hobbits being hobbits.


One Ringer
Tol Eressea


Aug 4 2012, 5:02pm

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Ah, yes... [In reply to] Can't Post

The morning dew on the open plains glistening in the rising sun as the car speeds along to who knows where. Good eye, Magpie, and senses, too. Smile

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Xanaseb
Tol Eressea


Aug 4 2012, 11:41pm

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hmmm interesting, I love the background in this shot. [In reply to] Can't Post

1.) Does Pippin come across looking ill? Bloated? Tired? Anything?

Tired I think, a bit nonchalant too hehe.

2.) Any thoughts about the lighting and balance of this shot? What sticks out to you?

Well, the stong brilliance of the light from the left hehe... but from what I wonder ? the Sun I s'ppose hehe

3.) What colors appear most prominent here? What does it present to us as viewers and thinkers, if anything at all?

Bluey-greens, and Browns. For me it gives a mellow feel, not dark at all.

4.) Any other thoughts or comments?

I find it surprising how clear the shot feels. Crisp. I love the reeds to the left of Merry; unique to this sequence the reeds.

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Kassandros
Rohan


Aug 5 2012, 12:19am

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my thoughts... [In reply to] Can't Post

1.) Does Pippin come across looking ill? Bloated? Tired? Anything?

Not particularly bloated or ill in this shot. Perhaps like a child who has just had too many cookies and is realizing the consequences.

2.) Any thoughts about the lighting and balance of this shot? What sticks out to you?

It looks like they are lit by a spotlight, much like many shots in Lothlorien. It gives Lothlorien an ethereal, othererworldly feel.

3.) What colors appear most prominent here? What does it present to us as viewers and thinkers, if anything at all?

All of the colors are muted. The blue tint and mutedness of the colors kind of gives me the feeling that it is perpetually evening in Lothlorien. Kind of a sign that the influence of the elves is waning and they will soon leave Middle Earth. One thing that always disappointed me in the movies was that the leaves of the of the Mallorn trees were not golden. I don't know how they possibly missed this. But the Lothlorien of the movies is not at all how I picture it.

4.) Any other thoughts or comments?

I get the sense that Merry and Pippin don't truly "belong" in Lorien from this picture. There seems to be a contrast between their clothes on the one hand and the architecture of the bridge in the background on the other. I love the bridge!




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Xanaseb
Tol Eressea


Aug 5 2012, 7:16am

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good point about the not-so-golden mallorn leaves ...... would have been quite glorious, plus, awesome avatar Kassandros // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Kassandros
Rohan


Aug 6 2012, 12:08am

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They never got the forests right... [In reply to] Can't Post

I was disappointed by Treebeard (and the lack of Quickbeam) and Fangorn as a whole as well. Wasn't at all how I imagined it. And the ents are supposed to be full of sadness, not comic relief. Ah well. I did like the flooding of Isengard, though perhaps as much for the music as the visuals.

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Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Aug 6 2012, 2:19am

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Agreed, all the soundstage forests were a disaster [In reply to] Can't Post

Not sure why they didn't find locations for these, with some added false trees for the mallorns, etc. Caras Galadhon and Fangorn looked incredibly fake.


thomasofrohan
Lorien

Aug 6 2012, 2:30am

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I guess I'm just not good at noticing "fakeness"... [In reply to] Can't Post

Because Fangorn worked very well, at least for me. Personally, I loved its slightly uneasy, twisted, storybook quality. I wouldn't say it resembled a realistic forest, but within the context of the film I never found it distracting and was quite impressed by how the filmmakers suggested darkness and scale without using any real environment in which to do so.

So I can't agree that it was a disaster! Even at their least well-executed, the excellent craft on display never approached that level for me. Perhaps it would have been better to combine fake trees for the mallorns with a real forest, but I liked the effect of what they achieved with Fangorn.


(This post was edited by thomasofrohan on Aug 6 2012, 2:34am)


Ataahua
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Aug 6 2012, 7:29pm

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Same. [In reply to] Can't Post

I've been in bush areas that weren't dissimilar to Merry and Pippin's Fangorn.

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Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Aug 7 2012, 6:13am

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It's not the flora and fauna [In reply to] Can't Post

Its the lighting, and occasionally the texture of bark, stone and grass that simply does not look real.

But mainly, the fault lies with indoor lighting, IMO.

 
 

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