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Aug 14 2012, 4:24pm


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The neat thing about "skriking" is that it fits the lyrical pattern that you note, so even if it were an invented word, most readers wouldn't question it and would accept it as part of the whole. The link Sador provided mentions a thrush in the defintion: how's that for unintended foreshadowing?

In what is a children's book, I find the analogy of the animals being tortured quite disturbing. Not bad enough to ban the books from libraries, and plenty of fairy tales in their original form have worse things (the evil stepmother in one old tale is forced to dance on hot coals until she dies!). I don't dwell on it, but I find it out of place.

Gandalf and Orcrist: I think we are meant to believe that this wily wizard is agile enough and has the presence of mind to snatch Thorin's sword. And after all, he needs to re-arm all of the dwarves that he can if they're going to fight their way out and continue their quest. Gandalf shows a similar presence of mind at the Black Gate in The Return of the King, when he snatches Frodo's possessions from the Mouth of Sauron. "These we will take!" I love that scene.

How many goblins should we believe are chasing, or in this case, manning the front lines? Lots. And they were goblinning the front lines, not manning them. But seriously, I think if we were given numbers high or low, we'd start to think about what's realistic or not. Leaving it fuzzy like this lets our imagination adapt the crowd control to what we each find believable. I imagine the good guys are outnumbered 3 to 1, if I think about it.

Is there meant to be some magic in the blades that allow Gandalf and Thorin to slay so many so quick?
Are the goblins merely mesmerized and in shock that they find no time to defend? Is there something else at play here? Yes, I think so. Gondolin has a mystique about it in the Silmarillion also, coming the closest of all realms to reproducing the atmosphere of Tuna in Aman. That would give an extra oomph to its weapons here.

Great questions--thanks for leading the chapter! Sorry I couldn't join sooner.

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