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SCOD: The Fellowship Rides Off

GoodGuyA
Lorien

May 25 2012, 7:51pm

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This one was certainly much later than usual! Got it in time though, so let us discuss!



The full-sized image can be found here. This is Rivendell's final goodbye to the Fellowship on their quest.

1. This is the second shot we see of the Fellowship in the same frame. What sort of difference do you notice from the prior get together after the Council of Elrond?

2. Of course it's impossible to talk about these group shots without mentioning the scaling. Does it work here? Which techniques do you think were used to create this single shot?

3. Look at the braid on the back of Elrond's head. Thoughts? I surely never saw it before.

4. Both Legolas and Aragorn are bowing respectfully to Elrond. While it might be understandable why the others might not be, why isn't Gandalf showing his gratefulness as well?

5. Any additional thoughts?


(This post was edited by GoodGuyA on May 25 2012, 7:52pm)


zarabia
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May 26 2012, 3:41am

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1. This is the second shot we see of the Fellowship in the same frame. What sort of difference do you notice from the prior get together after the Council of Elrond?

Well, aside from the addition of travel gear, the expressions are much more serious. Also, in the previous shot, the Fellowship seems more of a group - they standing close together and appear to be of one mind. Here, they are standing a bit apart and seem intent on their own thoughts.


2. Of course it's impossible to talk about these group shots without mentioning the scaling. Does it work here? Which techniques do you think were used to create this single shot?

Yes, for me it works. I would guess this might be a green screen shot and that Gimli is Brett rather than JR Davies.

3. Look at the braid on the back of Elrond's head. Thoughts? I surely never saw it before.

Wow! so much detail and work that went into something that really isn't seen in the film. Look at the basket-weave of hair above the braid. I can't make out what the small bit is just above the braid - it almost looks like a butterfly, but that wouldn't fit the motif. I also never noticed the stitchwork on Elrond's robes.

4. Both Legolas and Aragorn are bowing respectfully to Elrond. While it might be understandable why the others might not be, why isn't Gandalf showing his gratefulness as well?

They are showing respect, but also deference. Gandalf is Elrond's equal, so he wouldn't feel the need to show such deference. Actually, the two seem to be a team of sorts with one on one side of the group and the other on the opposite side. It's almost like a family preparing to leave one parent behind in the company of the other. Plus, he seems a bit impatient and ready to get going.

5. Any additional thoughts?

Thanks GoodGuyA!



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Xanaseb
Tol Eressea


May 26 2012, 12:08pm

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better late than never :D. my foremost thought with this cap is that the company don't really look at all that formidable or ready for what awaits them [In reply to] Can't Post

1. This is the second shot we see of the Fellowship in the same frame. What sort of difference do you notice from the prior get together after the Council of Elrond?

they seem much less emboldened. Anxious. Particularly the hobbits. They're all thinking a lot about what will come I think, or what they're leaving behind.

2. Of course it's impossible to talk about these group shots without mentioning the scaling. Does it work here? Which techniques do you think were used to create this single shot?

I think they're reasonably good... Sam to me looks a little off, but I'm no expert hehe.

3. Look at the braid on the back of Elrond's head. Thoughts? I surely never saw it before.

It's cool and crazy :D

4. Both Legolas and Aragorn are bowing respectfully to Elrond. While it might be understandable why the others might not be, why isn't Gandalf showing his gratefulness as well?

That's most likely and elvish custom, which Aragorn obviously learnt when he was younger, and thus uses. He does this or similar customs throughout the films. Gandalf doesn't need to show respect, as there is already a great air of mutual respect and understanding between the two. It's not like with Saruman earlier where Gandalf bows to greet him, there is no such petty power play between these two friends. (IMO)

5. Any additional thoughts?

They look so weak, insignificant, which is great in a way. In my opinion they don't seem that fresh and ready at all,nor have they glued together properly yet.


Thanks GoodGuyA SmileCool


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DanielLB
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May 26 2012, 1:51pm

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They totally CGI'd Boromir in (Bean didn't even film this scene). Or am I making this up?

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GoodGuyA
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May 26 2012, 2:11pm

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Bean stated on the commentary that he was shocked to see himself in some of the Rivendell scenes! Good catch.


Darkstone
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May 31 2012, 8:50pm

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1. This is the second shot we see of the Fellowship in the same frame. What sort of difference do you notice from the prior get together after the Council of Elrond?

Not as giddy. Everyone is a bit more serious.


2. Of course it's impossible to talk about these group shots without mentioning the scaling. Does it work here?

Works for me.


Which techniques do you think were used to create this single shot?

FX.

3. Look at the braid on the back of Elrond's head. Thoughts? I surely never saw it before.

Who braids it for him? Erestor? Arwen? Glorfindel? Does he return the favor? Is a large part of immortal lives sitting around braiding each other’s hair? Who does it later on in ROTK when Rivendell appears deserted?


4. Both Legolas and Aragorn are bowing respectfully to Elrond. While it might be understandable why the others might not be, why isn't Gandalf showing his gratefulness as well?

I think Gandalf outranks him. Elrond is only 6.25% Maia.


5. Any additional thoughts?

Pie.

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