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I know how you feel Kangi. And you know how I feel.

AinurOlorin
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Feb 13 2012, 2:23am


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I know how you feel Kangi. And you know how I feel. [In reply to] Can't Post

In my heart, I also wanted a pure Hobbit, and I hoped it would be a single three hour film. I was interested in a Bridge film, if it was done correctly and carefully. That isn't what happened. We have a Two Film Hobbit, and Dol Guldur will be in it, along with The Necromancer and The White Council.

Now Whether or not Dol Guldur was a battle. . . SOME manner of confrontation went on there. SOMEBODY was at home. Whether Sauron was amongst the welcoming comittee or had already fled is a matter of some debate, though all the lore more than indicates that he was at least in residence long enough to be counted present, though his plan for flight was already arranged. But all the accounts by those who were present leaves no doubt that a battle of some sort definitely took place, whatever the scale and scope. And Gandalf's achieved his goal of at least altering Sauron's course and preventing a direct stroke against Lothlorien and Rivendell as the opening salvos to his Great War, which was The Dark Lord's original intention.

I don't intend to debate that now, though.

What you need/want versus what I need/want is, in the end, not particularly relevant. We all have our opinions, and they all have some measure of validty.

I won't get into a long Glorfindel argument either. I will merely say that he DOES exist in THe Hobbit as much as any other Elf who may be present in Rivendell (and more so than some), and that if any Elf aside from Elrond himself, and Galadriel (and possibly Cirdan) in the context of The White Council, deserves honourable mention and a nod of acknowledgement, then it is definitely Glorfindel, certainly more so than Lindir, or Haldir, or Figwit or even uhh. . . what's her name? Oh yes, the mighty, incomparable, never heard of before in Tolkiendom, Tauriel. You may argue on past those facts if you wish, but it's not an argument that will ever move me as much as a nanometer. Just saying.

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I just want The Hobbit. I do not need it loaded up with a bunch of Silmarillion (or for that matter LotR) references. The White Council/Council of the Wise is just an aside as far as I am concerned. Dol Guldur wasn't even a battle (Lights on nobody at home). Regardless of all of the wonderful things that are attributed to Glorfindel he does not exist in The Hobbit and I see no reason for dragging him in. There are those who have expressed their desire to have the Blue Wizards show up at the Council of the Wise. I am opposed to this as well. I just want The Hobbit.


"Hear me, hounds of Sauron, Gandalf is here! Fly if you value your foul skins, I will shrivel you from tail to snout if you step within this circle!"

"Do not be to eager to deal out death in judgement. Even the very wise cannot see all ends."

(This post was edited by AinurOlorin on Feb 13 2012, 2:25am)

Subject User Time
An idea for Cumberbatch's cameo. aifeme Send a private message to aifeme Feb 11 2012, 10:42pm
    Cameo? DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Feb 11 2012, 10:45pm
        He's officially confirmed for both duats Send a private message to duats Feb 11 2012, 10:53pm
            Well... aifeme Send a private message to aifeme Feb 11 2012, 11:33pm
                What would the point be? DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Feb 12 2012, 10:23am
                    The reason is simple: aifeme Send a private message to aifeme Feb 12 2012, 12:16pm
                        The answer is: DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Feb 12 2012, 1:56pm
                    It depends if we see his face... QuackingTroll Send a private message to QuackingTroll Feb 12 2012, 12:20pm
                        I agree with QuackingTroll ThorinII Send a private message to ThorinII Feb 12 2012, 1:55pm
                        Yeah, I suppose DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Feb 12 2012, 1:57pm
                        I really doubt that Annatar will appear. Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Feb 12 2012, 3:35pm
                    Because some fans want to see his fleshy-face. Milknut Send a private message to Milknut Feb 12 2012, 6:27pm
            Thanks duats DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Feb 12 2012, 10:24am
    Glorfindel daemoon Send a private message to daemoon Feb 12 2012, 1:02am
        Yah! Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Feb 12 2012, 3:37pm
            Kangi, that doesn't make sense. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 12 2012, 6:05pm
                Um I think it was a joke. Milknut Send a private message to Milknut Feb 12 2012, 6:30pm
                You see, Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Feb 12 2012, 8:39pm
                    I know how you feel Kangi. And you know how I feel. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 13 2012, 2:23am
    I doubt they'd throw an actor like Cumberbatch in the background for a "blink and you'll miss it" cameo. Carne Send a private message to Carne Feb 12 2012, 1:17am
        If you go by the Andy Serkis precedent Milknut Send a private message to Milknut Feb 12 2012, 6:32pm
    a few "if"-s miriel Send a private message to miriel Feb 12 2012, 1:56pm
        Listening overmuch to the audience Shelob'sAppetite Send a private message to Shelob'sAppetite Feb 12 2012, 8:02pm
            I love the speculation and debate about what PJ should do in TH but Gwytha Send a private message to Gwytha Feb 12 2012, 10:40pm
    never heard of the guy . . . TomthePilgrim Send a private message to TomthePilgrim Feb 12 2012, 7:00pm

 
 
 

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