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It was Freudian slip.

Kangi Ska
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Sep 30 2010, 5:23pm


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It was Freudian slip. [In reply to] Can't Post

Snaga is translated as "slave" in the Appendixes

Kangi Ska

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From Variety: Unions to thesps:" Don't work on The Hobbit" macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Sep 25 2010, 7:50pm
    My amatuer opinion is Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 25 2010, 8:34pm
        hear, hear bowencm Send a private message to bowencm Sep 26 2010, 11:00pm
    " "The Hobbit" producers have indicated they intend to make "imminent" offers to performers" Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Sep 25 2010, 8:40pm
    It's an attempt at a boycott of sorts Altaira Send a private message to Altaira Sep 25 2010, 9:17pm
        More info/links in here, too... Altaira Send a private message to Altaira Sep 25 2010, 9:27pm
    I've got the rest of this story Kristin Thompson Send a private message to Kristin Thompson Sep 25 2010, 9:46pm
        More hurdles ahead? Elven Send a private message to Elven Sep 25 2010, 11:43pm
            Peter directing? Kristin Thompson Send a private message to Kristin Thompson Sep 26 2010, 12:29am
                Well if New Zealand caves to unions Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 26 2010, 12:36am
                Sorry Kristin ... Elven Send a private message to Elven Sep 26 2010, 6:31am
                    Peter, Fran, and Philippa as union members Kristin Thompson Send a private message to Kristin Thompson Sep 26 2010, 7:15pm
                        Thanks Kristin Elven Send a private message to Elven Sep 26 2010, 11:54pm
    Does anyone else just want to scream at this point? dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Sep 25 2010, 9:55pm
        Like crawling over broken glass Eruonen Send a private message to Eruonen Sep 25 2010, 10:40pm
            Jeez duats Send a private message to duats Sep 25 2010, 11:23pm
        Is this some kind of a joke??? Pipe Dream Send a private message to Pipe Dream Sep 26 2010, 1:06am
            Oh the humanity!!! Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Sep 26 2010, 2:38am
                The whole point ... Hellmistress Send a private message to Hellmistress Sep 26 2010, 3:47am
                    Well said. / SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Sep 26 2010, 4:06am
                    Yes squire Send a private message to squire Sep 26 2010, 4:27am
                        Absolutely. N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Sep 26 2010, 4:33am
                        Also well said SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Sep 26 2010, 4:44am
                        thumbs up to this (and Hellmistress's) // Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Sep 26 2010, 4:47am
                            union merlwynd Send a private message to merlwynd Sep 26 2010, 5:31am
                        well said merlwynd Send a private message to merlwynd Sep 26 2010, 9:37am
                        The Collective is only as good as its jurisdiction Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 26 2010, 7:01pm
                        Thank you Squire Gildor Send a private message to Gildor Sep 26 2010, 11:09pm
                            Aw c'mon now Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 26 2010, 11:29pm
                                I don't know him personally Gildor Send a private message to Gildor Sep 27 2010, 3:02pm
                                    Just to clarify ... Elven Send a private message to Elven Sep 27 2010, 3:45pm
                                        Jumped Lark Send a private message to Lark Sep 27 2010, 3:57pm
                                            As Im aware ... Elven Send a private message to Elven Sep 27 2010, 4:27pm
                                                Dunce hat Lark Send a private message to Lark Sep 27 2010, 4:43pm
                                                    PJ claims he's paying fairly Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 27 2010, 4:49pm
                                                        I understand that Lark Send a private message to Lark Sep 27 2010, 5:07pm
                                            Sorry, have I missed something... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Sep 27 2010, 4:41pm
                            Annnnd PJ isn't even in control of the situation Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 26 2010, 11:36pm
                        As a Union Worker grammaboodawg Send a private message to grammaboodawg Sep 27 2010, 2:17am
                            Heh heh like I said it's not simple Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 27 2010, 3:13am
                                Nothing is perfect: Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Sep 27 2010, 3:41am
                                Aside: I've seen "Waiting for Superman" entmaiden Send a private message to entmaiden Sep 27 2010, 10:09pm
                                    Thanks for your review entmaiden Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 27 2010, 10:28pm
                                        I saw it at a film festival in the US, but entmaiden Send a private message to entmaiden Sep 27 2010, 10:32pm
                                    And aside on the aside: NBC News grammaboodawg Send a private message to grammaboodawg Sep 28 2010, 12:25am
                            Labor pains?! Sunflower Send a private message to Sunflower Sep 29 2010, 8:33am
    who do they mean by "producers" Glaurung63 Send a private message to Glaurung63 Sep 25 2010, 11:49pm
    the more I think about this... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Sep 26 2010, 3:11pm
    Historically: Unions came into existence when Owners, Management & Government Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Sep 26 2010, 3:58pm
        Power corrupts, even unions Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Sep 26 2010, 4:14pm
            The leaders ... Hellmistress Send a private message to Hellmistress Sep 26 2010, 5:06pm
                Still. It's the worst possible timing. If the wages are bad, pick another job. The unions are putting one of the most anticipated movies on film history at stake. It should be an honor to work on The Hobbit. I'd do it for free, and gladly so. macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Sep 26 2010, 6:48pm
                    Sorry, but this is irrelevant ... Hellmistress Send a private message to Hellmistress Sep 26 2010, 9:20pm
                        But, if that were true Altaira Send a private message to Altaira Sep 26 2010, 10:36pm
                            Independent contractor ... Elven Send a private message to Elven Sep 26 2010, 11:45pm
                                You go! Altaira Send a private message to Altaira Sep 27 2010, 12:59am
                                    Hats off to you too... Elven Send a private message to Elven Sep 27 2010, 8:50am
                                    I'm always grammaboodawg Send a private message to grammaboodawg Sep 28 2010, 12:34am
                        sneaky suspicions ... Elven Send a private message to Elven Sep 27 2010, 12:09am
                    So you say Gildor Send a private message to Gildor Sep 26 2010, 11:14pm
            Humans are fallible Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Sep 26 2010, 5:57pm
                So true, that's why even people who work for unions have unions. / SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Sep 26 2010, 9:54pm
                    Yes indeed ... Hellmistress Send a private message to Hellmistress Sep 26 2010, 10:05pm
    Peter's response to the unions' demands Kristin Thompson Send a private message to Kristin Thompson Sep 26 2010, 6:41pm
        It seems this is the key paragraph: Ataahua Send a private message to Ataahua Sep 26 2010, 6:55pm
            From a quick bit of Googling Ataahua Send a private message to Ataahua Sep 26 2010, 7:42pm
        Yikes! Pipe Dream Send a private message to Pipe Dream Sep 26 2010, 6:56pm
        PJ needed to step in and get out his side and he did - good job Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 26 2010, 7:27pm
            People who work for PJ are very loyal Kristin Thompson Send a private message to Kristin Thompson Sep 26 2010, 7:39pm
                Good on PJ then Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 26 2010, 7:44pm
            I have to wonder Altaira Send a private message to Altaira Sep 26 2010, 8:21pm
                Not quite. Ataahua Send a private message to Ataahua Sep 26 2010, 8:52pm
                    Ah, thanks. Then it comes down to whether they are contractors or employees - and there is precedence Altaira Send a private message to Altaira Sep 26 2010, 9:08pm
                As dormouse said above SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Sep 26 2010, 9:06pm
            It's a lonely battle you wage here Tim Kirly Send a private message to Kirly Sep 26 2010, 10:05pm
                Heh heh I don't feel lonely ;-) Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 26 2010, 11:00pm
                    unions Kirly Send a private message to Kirly Sep 27 2010, 6:08am
                I agree with Tim as well dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Sep 26 2010, 11:03pm
                    I agree with that. just the chosen target of the day. (nft) Kirly Send a private message to Kirly Sep 27 2010, 6:09am
        Oh boy. Ainu Laire Send a private message to Ainu Laire Sep 27 2010, 12:57am
        RE: PJ's response Pete Send a private message to Pete Sep 27 2010, 4:47am
        McKellen & co. support a boycott of the film? Silmaril Send a private message to Silmaril Sep 27 2010, 9:11am
            I note the NZ contracts didn't stop them from working on LOTR. / Ataahua Send a private message to Ataahua Sep 27 2010, 6:25pm
    If I were Peter, I would just throw my hands in the air and say... DarthNeeson Sep 26 2010, 10:12pm
        Some times it takes a lot of patience Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Sep 27 2010, 12:38am
            Amarth faeg! :S Ruijor Send a private message to Ruijor Sep 27 2010, 1:01am
                A move would require another long delay Eruonen Send a private message to Eruonen Sep 27 2010, 1:17am
                    Europe MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Sep 27 2010, 6:20am
                        To Unionise or not to Unionise ... Hellmistress Send a private message to Hellmistress Sep 27 2010, 7:00am
                            MEAA was struck off the list of Registered Societies this month - it can't negotiate as a registered union.... Elven Send a private message to Elven Sep 27 2010, 10:12am
                            Can this be... Sunflower Send a private message to Sunflower Sep 29 2010, 8:26am
                                I've been wondering that too.... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Sep 29 2010, 8:42am
                                    PS.... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Sep 29 2010, 10:11am
                                        Hobbiton flyover. Pioneer Send a private message to Pioneer Sep 29 2010, 10:24am
                                            Oh that is awesome! Earl Send a private message to Earl Sep 29 2010, 10:49am
                                            Fer sure Hobbitton is moving right along - let's hope they get to use it. // Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 29 2010, 2:03pm
                                            Thanks for posting Eruonen Send a private message to Eruonen Sep 29 2010, 2:11pm
                                                To heck with it I'm emailing SAG what have I got to lose? Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 29 2010, 2:32pm
                                                    I also sent an email... Eruonen Send a private message to Eruonen Sep 29 2010, 3:17pm
                                                        Cool! Even NZ Actor's Equity isn't making the claim that The Hobbit is non-union. Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 29 2010, 3:25pm
                                                    I agree.... Gorgori Send a private message to Gorgori Sep 29 2010, 3:24pm
                                                        A trust fund for the actors and crew - hmmm I like this idea - Voronwe where are you? Let's set this up. ;-) Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 29 2010, 3:37pm
                                                            I think it would be better if... Eruonen Send a private message to Eruonen Sep 29 2010, 3:41pm
                                                                That's a good idea too Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 29 2010, 3:47pm
                                                                    Oh, just send the money to me geordie Send a private message to geordie Sep 29 2010, 6:15pm
                                                        Welcome to the Matrix...I mean the boards. It is good to hear from you. Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Sep 29 2010, 3:53pm
                                                            Rather, "welcome to the Thunderdome, bleep" SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Sep 29 2010, 4:59pm
                                                        Welcome, Gorgori! Patty Send a private message to Patty Sep 29 2010, 4:27pm
                                            Skips over all the political wrangling Garfeimao Send a private message to Garfeimao Sep 30 2010, 6:32am
                                                I thought it looked behind schedule. Pipe Dream Send a private message to Pipe Dream Sep 30 2010, 8:33am
                                                    I got the same feeling... Earl Send a private message to Earl Sep 30 2010, 9:52am
                                                    Four months is a long time squire Send a private message to squire Sep 30 2010, 1:31pm
                                    I wonder if any of that footage will be in The Hobbit EE extras? SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Sep 29 2010, 6:22pm
    Unions are good, Galadriel's ring Send a private message to Galadriel's ring Sep 27 2010, 5:55am
    What makes me REALLY angry about this... Iolite Send a private message to Iolite Sep 27 2010, 9:04am
        Thanks for chiming in Iolite. Ataahua Send a private message to Ataahua Sep 27 2010, 6:24pm
        Yes, an informative post though I find it odd SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Sep 27 2010, 8:18pm
            Well said, Sir Dennis ... Hellmistress Send a private message to Hellmistress Sep 27 2010, 8:24pm
            We do have contracts and laws to enforce them... Iolite Send a private message to Iolite Sep 27 2010, 9:21pm
                Nicely articulated, Iolite Altaira Send a private message to Altaira Sep 27 2010, 10:00pm
                Implying/Non-binding SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Sep 27 2010, 10:41pm
                    Recommended guidelines only... Iolite Send a private message to Iolite Sep 28 2010, 12:13am
                        Fascinating SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Sep 28 2010, 3:04am
    Europe? Whoo-hoo! geordie Send a private message to geordie Sep 27 2010, 9:12am
        unions merlwynd Send a private message to merlwynd Sep 27 2010, 10:22am
    Where's BoB? He hasn't chimed in on this yet...!? sphdle1 Send a private message to sphdle1 Sep 27 2010, 11:43am
    Here is Jackson's reponse on Variety sphdle1 Send a private message to sphdle1 Sep 27 2010, 11:57am
        All is resumed to this... Dreamaster Send a private message to Dreamaster Sep 27 2010, 1:19pm
            Eastern Europe? macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Sep 27 2010, 1:32pm
                Welcome to Latvia Bilbo Baggins ... ;-) // Elven Send a private message to Elven Sep 27 2010, 2:50pm
            Amen. Sunflower Send a private message to Sunflower Sep 29 2010, 9:20am
    Update: MEAA Meeting planned in Auckland tomorrow ... Elven Send a private message to Elven Sep 27 2010, 3:13pm
        What do you think - do I understand this right? Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 27 2010, 5:01pm
            Yes Lark Send a private message to Lark Sep 27 2010, 5:12pm
    I'm glad performers are being protected. Lark Send a private message to Lark Sep 27 2010, 3:40pm
        Well the majority of New Zealanders (actors) are not union Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 27 2010, 4:44pm
    What we hear is that it's illegal in New Zealand FangornFriend Send a private message to FangornFriend Sep 27 2010, 5:29pm
        Can't happen? Lark Send a private message to Lark Sep 27 2010, 5:40pm
            This doesn't seem about wages Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 27 2010, 5:57pm
                I did Lark Send a private message to Lark Sep 27 2010, 7:01pm
                    Peter Jackson did not say "he can't do what they ask (pay fairly)" Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Sep 27 2010, 7:16pm
                    Sorry, Lark dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Sep 27 2010, 7:18pm
                    Others have accurately pointed out you mis-represent what PJ says in his statement but I'll add my two cents as well Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 27 2010, 7:55pm
                        ugh Lark Send a private message to Lark Sep 27 2010, 8:06pm
                            Saying he can't negotiate with the unions Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 27 2010, 8:16pm
                            Thank-you Altaira Send a private message to Altaira Sep 27 2010, 8:18pm
                            I do believe you hav misunderstood parts of Peter's starement. Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Sep 27 2010, 8:24pm
                                Yes Lark Send a private message to Lark Sep 27 2010, 8:53pm
                                    Well thanks for being honest about your perspective :-) Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 27 2010, 10:24pm
                        My guess is that this will be a flash in the pan Eruonen Send a private message to Eruonen Sep 27 2010, 8:07pm
                            I hope you're right and that this is "much ado about nothing". Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 27 2010, 10:29pm
                                Sadly, I'm not convinced that it is Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Sep 27 2010, 10:42pm
                            A team of international labor lawyers will straighten this out. Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Sep 27 2010, 10:43pm
            Sounds reasonable to me Gildor Send a private message to Gildor Sep 28 2010, 4:05pm
                Nothing is reasonable or unreasonable yet Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 28 2010, 4:14pm
                    Sounds reasonable to me... Gildor Send a private message to Gildor Sep 28 2010, 5:02pm
                        Two to tango normally but in my mind this isn't totally normal Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 28 2010, 5:15pm
                            You keep rehashing stuff Gildor Send a private message to Gildor Sep 29 2010, 12:33am
                                Then I guess I need to repeat Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 29 2010, 12:35am
                                    You have and are understood! Gildor Send a private message to Gildor Sep 29 2010, 12:37am
        Yes Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 27 2010, 5:49pm
        Given that any employment law change Ataahua Send a private message to Ataahua Sep 27 2010, 6:36pm
            I totally agree. Lark Send a private message to Lark Sep 27 2010, 7:19pm
    There are three video's about this subject at TV New Zealand, Theodred Send a private message to Theodred Sep 27 2010, 5:37pm
        The reel world squire Send a private message to squire Sep 27 2010, 7:04pm
            True independent contractors can take on more than one job at a time, and work their own hours and provide their own equipment. Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 27 2010, 7:39pm
                Everybody's mileage may differ squire Send a private message to squire Sep 27 2010, 8:37pm
                    It came across as maybe you implying - but that's why I asked because I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 27 2010, 10:16pm
                        Read Ataahua's posts Altaira Send a private message to Altaira Sep 27 2010, 10:21pm
                        In the US, it's a facts and circumstances test entmaiden Send a private message to entmaiden Sep 27 2010, 10:31pm
                            Oh I don't doubt squire's right Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 27 2010, 10:36pm
                    NZ vs US Law entmaiden Send a private message to entmaiden Sep 27 2010, 10:21pm
    Karl Urban backs the union's stance Ataahua Send a private message to Ataahua Sep 27 2010, 10:50pm
        Any particulars on this? Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 27 2010, 10:59pm
            See inside Altaira Send a private message to Altaira Sep 27 2010, 11:13pm
                Thank you thank you Altaira Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 27 2010, 11:20pm
                One might also need to consider the jurisdiction of the court that decided the case. entmaiden Send a private message to entmaiden Sep 27 2010, 11:22pm
                    Indeed our land is a Lawyer's Paradise. Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 27 2010, 11:29pm
                A model maker is not an actor squire Send a private message to squire Sep 27 2010, 11:43pm
                    I require an expert NZ lawyer panel post haste! Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 27 2010, 11:49pm
            Totally different Elladan Send a private message to Elladan Sep 27 2010, 11:17pm
                That's cool Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 27 2010, 11:27pm
                    Hmm computer error I guess Elladan Send a private message to Elladan Sep 28 2010, 3:32pm
                        With so few big films in NZ, there is a lot of project-specific employment even in scenic shops squire Send a private message to squire Sep 28 2010, 4:14pm
                            Good points squire Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 28 2010, 4:21pm
                            True. Elladan Send a private message to Elladan Sep 28 2010, 4:49pm
    ** Update from the Home Page: Cate Blanchett and Sir Ian McKellen may decline Hobbit roles in pay row Altaira Send a private message to Altaira Sep 28 2010, 1:13am
        I agree this is just what we've already read it's a re-hash. // Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 28 2010, 1:19am
            Cool with me. Pioneer Send a private message to Pioneer Sep 28 2010, 1:58am
        Big scary stuff to panic the herd.// Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Sep 28 2010, 2:51am
        Yahoo news has put it on their homepage... weaver Send a private message to weaver Sep 28 2010, 2:53am
            Who wrote this fo Yahoo Movies? Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Sep 28 2010, 3:06am
                "two whole movies based in just the hobbit-land"? squire Send a private message to squire Sep 28 2010, 3:18am
                I dearly wish I could comment on the article Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 28 2010, 3:27am
                My jaw is stuck open--somebody help!! Ethel Duath Send a private message to Ethel Duath Sep 28 2010, 3:39am
                    Nah... Eowyn of Penns Woods Send a private message to Eowyn of Penns Woods Sep 28 2010, 7:12am
                Will Leitch: Author of the Bunk Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Sep 28 2010, 3:07pm
            And there's our first neeker-breeker article for The Hobbit. / Ataahua Send a private message to Ataahua Sep 28 2010, 7:57pm
        All this aside, that is one gorgeous shot of Cate Blanchett attached to the article. / SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Sep 28 2010, 3:14am
        I think they both know grammaboodawg Send a private message to grammaboodawg Sep 28 2010, 9:14am
            wow!!! merlwynd Send a private message to merlwynd Sep 28 2010, 9:40am
    Let me duck out by saying... Lark Send a private message to Lark Sep 28 2010, 2:57am
        Not at all SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Sep 28 2010, 3:22am
        Sorted out? Sorted out? macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Sep 28 2010, 4:06pm
    Offical response from the Studio Bound Send a private message to Bound Sep 28 2010, 9:03am
        puhhh... this is a serious conflict!! Silmaril Send a private message to Silmaril Sep 28 2010, 9:46am
            SAG's Global Rule One Pipe Dream Send a private message to Pipe Dream Sep 28 2010, 10:02am
                I don't see them expelling Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 28 2010, 1:04pm
                That's irrelevant in this case Altaira Send a private message to Altaira Sep 28 2010, 3:30pm
                    It seems ironic, really.... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Sep 28 2010, 4:01pm
                        Indeed Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 28 2010, 4:03pm
                            Right, the union sees this as its biggest and best chance Eruonen Send a private message to Eruonen Sep 28 2010, 4:10pm
                                I agree ... Let's hope sphdle1 Send a private message to sphdle1 Sep 28 2010, 4:45pm
                                    Any news of a New Zealand Government response? Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 28 2010, 4:59pm
                                        especially since sphdle1 Send a private message to sphdle1 Sep 28 2010, 5:14pm
        Not looking good ... Jackson can't be happy right now... sphdle1 Send a private message to sphdle1 Sep 28 2010, 11:39am
        Studios answer ti big scary stuff. Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Sep 28 2010, 2:33pm
        Yup. The Studios and PJ are sympatico Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 28 2010, 3:25pm
            There's a time and a place sphdle1 Send a private message to sphdle1 Sep 28 2010, 4:40pm
                And yet SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Sep 28 2010, 8:55pm
                    A business seeks to maximize profit - the prime mandate for its existence Eruonen Send a private message to Eruonen Sep 28 2010, 9:12pm
                        That doesn't make it right SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Sep 28 2010, 9:28pm
                            Indeed. Eruonen Send a private message to Eruonen Sep 28 2010, 9:44pm
                                An army must move from water to water SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Sep 28 2010, 10:43pm
                                    Everything you say makes sense sphdle1 Send a private message to sphdle1 Sep 29 2010, 11:35am
                                        We should remember squire Send a private message to squire Sep 29 2010, 1:28pm
                                            Well said Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 29 2010, 2:28pm
                                            I think you misunderstood sphdle1 Send a private message to sphdle1 Sep 29 2010, 3:19pm
                                            Remember... Sunflower Send a private message to Sunflower Sep 29 2010, 6:52pm
                                I live in Canada sphdle1 Send a private message to sphdle1 Sep 29 2010, 11:42am
                    Whether it sits right or not facts are facts Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 28 2010, 9:33pm
                        A Transylvanian Hobbit might be very interesting...HaHaHaHaHaHa! Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Sep 28 2010, 9:55pm
                            Just a thought... cameragod Send a private message to cameragod Sep 28 2010, 10:20pm
                    Yes I agree Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 28 2010, 10:57pm
                    I'm not talking about the little guy sphdle1 Send a private message to sphdle1 Sep 29 2010, 11:18am
        The horror! Will this ever come to a good end? // Compa_Mighty Send a private message to Compa_Mighty Sep 29 2010, 12:47am
            One word... Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Sep 29 2010, 12:49am
                *writes.. Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 29 2010, 12:52am
                    Tolkien cioned the word Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Sep 29 2010, 12:55am
                        Sorry I knew that - was a lame "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" joke. ;-) // Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 29 2010, 12:58am
                            OK...my mind was not moving in that direction Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Sep 29 2010, 1:02am
                    eucatastrophe Mooseboy018 Send a private message to Mooseboy018 Sep 29 2010, 12:55am
                        The ride has made me a bit queezy Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Sep 29 2010, 12:59am
                (EU) catastrophe indeed. macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Sep 29 2010, 7:43am
    *Update* ''Talk to us, Kiwi actors tell Hobbit film's producers'' Rogash Send a private message to Rogash Sep 28 2010, 5:49pm
        It means we're right back where we started from Altaira Send a private message to Altaira Sep 28 2010, 5:53pm
            NZ Actor's equity's response to PJ statement Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 28 2010, 6:45pm
            And PJ's claims that they aren't even a Union is presented with a genuine non-answer Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 28 2010, 6:50pm
        To make matters more interesting Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 28 2010, 6:18pm
            That must be why Altaira Send a private message to Altaira Sep 28 2010, 6:48pm
                Interesting I wonder if that helps their union status Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 28 2010, 6:54pm
                    I believe... Ruijor Send a private message to Ruijor Sep 28 2010, 7:45pm
                They also can't seem to agree how to classify The Hobbit (union or non-union) Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 28 2010, 7:55pm
                MEAA "has no legal status" in New Zealand Eruonen Send a private message to Eruonen Sep 28 2010, 8:18pm
                    Killing the Golden Goose Eruonen Send a private message to Eruonen Sep 28 2010, 8:38pm
        Technically, there are no producers. entmaiden Send a private message to entmaiden Sep 29 2010, 4:18am
            I agree this is an extremely weird situation Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 29 2010, 4:34am
                meeting or not? Silmaril Send a private message to Silmaril Sep 29 2010, 6:49am
    A strong suggestion: Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Sep 28 2010, 8:15pm
        *Relaxes* Tenses up* *Relaxes* Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 28 2010, 9:28pm
        Yeah, sure... Sunflower Send a private message to Sunflower Sep 29 2010, 10:46am
    Links to two strong articles from NZ Stuff Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Sep 28 2010, 8:38pm
        A third article from NZ Stuff: Karl Urban backs union Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Sep 28 2010, 9:49pm
    Excellent article on Scoop.co.nz about this whole debacle... Cad Monkey Send a private message to Cad Monkey Sep 28 2010, 11:28pm
        The clearest information I have seen.// Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Sep 29 2010, 12:06am
        Highly informative and very reasonable. Ataahua Send a private message to Ataahua Sep 29 2010, 12:09am
            What I found curious Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 29 2010, 12:32am
                One of the two is wrong Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Sep 29 2010, 12:46am
                Your second quote is correct Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Sep 29 2010, 2:04am
                    Good find. And it does bring the Scoop article into question. Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Sep 29 2010, 2:11am
                        I think it may also be the fastest moving thread I have seen Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Sep 29 2010, 2:21am
                    Admittedly I haven't weighed through the entire thing Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 29 2010, 2:30am
                        I would trust Voronwë the Faithful's reading Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Sep 29 2010, 3:11am
                        I'm no lawyer but Envinyatar Send a private message to Envinyatar Sep 29 2010, 3:16am
                            OK I surrender!// Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Sep 29 2010, 3:20am
                            You are correct; my apologies Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Sep 29 2010, 4:30am
                            Yes, you're right. Kimi Send a private message to Kimi Sep 29 2010, 5:27am
                            This vindicates the Scoop article that I swooned over(I guess) Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Sep 29 2010, 2:20pm
                                Yes Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Sep 29 2010, 3:34pm
                Both are true - no, really :-) Kimi Send a private message to Kimi Sep 29 2010, 5:18am
        Great find Eruonen Send a private message to Eruonen Sep 29 2010, 1:23am
        Good Scoop CINE Send a private message to CINE Sep 29 2010, 1:27am
        If tax incentives are the carrot SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Sep 29 2010, 6:35am
        The writer seems to suggest sphdle1 Send a private message to sphdle1 Sep 29 2010, 12:11pm
            I may have mistook Campbell's meaning - SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Sep 29 2010, 6:02pm
    Dead end durfalas Send a private message to durfalas Sep 29 2010, 8:16am
    My ultimate frustration with this duats Send a private message to duats Sep 29 2010, 7:35pm
        Also duats Send a private message to duats Sep 29 2010, 7:52pm
            I would assume NZ has free speech Eruonen Send a private message to Eruonen Sep 29 2010, 8:25pm
                I don't think NZ is as free in speech as the U.S. Eruonen Send a private message to Eruonen Sep 29 2010, 8:37pm
                Possibly. Ataahua Send a private message to Ataahua Sep 29 2010, 8:46pm
                    Let us hope this evil genie does not surface! Eruonen Send a private message to Eruonen Sep 29 2010, 9:01pm
            Perhaps, but Silverlode Send a private message to Silverlode Sep 29 2010, 8:25pm
        Agree with many of your points SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Sep 29 2010, 8:22pm
        Not completely out of production's hands Gildor Send a private message to Gildor Sep 30 2010, 12:42am
            Actually that process has already started Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 30 2010, 12:47am
    Now Kiwi politicians are getting involved... Cad Monkey Send a private message to Cad Monkey Sep 29 2010, 9:23pm
        And the New Zealand government dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Sep 29 2010, 9:50pm
            Since NZ politician know what is at stake... Eruonen Send a private message to Eruonen Sep 29 2010, 10:21pm
                Let us hope... Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Sep 29 2010, 10:28pm
                I predict you're right Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 29 2010, 10:29pm
                    Not all politicians... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Sep 29 2010, 10:45pm
                        Ah yes....goodwill Eruonen Send a private message to Eruonen Sep 29 2010, 11:01pm
                            Not to be too cruel squire Send a private message to squire Sep 30 2010, 12:27am
                                I hoot twice for Weta: a truly global film asset.// Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Sep 30 2010, 12:37am
                                    Hoot hoot! // Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 30 2010, 12:58am
                                Ideological maybe - power most certainly oh "squire the cruel" ;-) Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 30 2010, 12:40am
                                    Drat those SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Sep 30 2010, 12:53am
                                        Don't fall over dead from shock Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 30 2010, 12:56am
                                            I have problems with really big unions Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Sep 30 2010, 1:18am
                                                Good and evil? squire Send a private message to squire Sep 30 2010, 2:13am
                                                    Good and evil are real as is New Zealand Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Sep 30 2010, 2:21am
                                                    To paraphrase Aragorn Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Sep 30 2010, 3:23am
                                                        Right, thank you for that squire Send a private message to squire Sep 30 2010, 3:51am
                                                            The good dogs taste better. (its a dog eat dog world) Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Sep 30 2010, 3:57am
                                                            I knew you were going to ask that :-) Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Sep 30 2010, 4:16am
                                When the dog finishes eating the dog Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Sep 30 2010, 12:42am
                                Absolutely, that is my point Eruonen Send a private message to Eruonen Sep 30 2010, 3:01am
                        Hmmm this article sheds a tad more light thanks dormouse Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 29 2010, 11:04pm
    Here is the relevant NZ law.... Iolite Send a private message to Iolite Sep 30 2010, 1:41am
        Thanks Iolite! Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 30 2010, 1:46am
        This must really throw SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Sep 30 2010, 1:57am
    Welcome to Azerbajdzjan, Bilbo Baggins. macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Sep 30 2010, 12:09pm
    My guess Zizix Send a private message to Zizix Sep 30 2010, 12:31pm
    Alright you thread-hijackers ;-) Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 30 2010, 2:54pm
        SAG will lay back until the smoke clears. Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Sep 30 2010, 3:08pm
            Correction: SPADA not SNAGA Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Sep 30 2010, 3:19pm
                Ha ha I thought you were making fun of SPADA Tim Send a private message to Tim Sep 30 2010, 3:21pm
                    It was Freudian slip. Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Sep 30 2010, 5:23pm
            MEAA Pipe Dream Send a private message to Pipe Dream Sep 30 2010, 3:19pm

 
 
 

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