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Book I, Chapter 11, “A Knife in the Dark”: Are Black Riders Wimps?
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Sep 3 2010, 12:52am

Post #126 of 129 (1366 views)
It's a function of who's translating. [In reply to] Can't Post

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I never noticed that before, but it's unmistakeable. I don't think Theoden or Denethor would talk like that.

But maybe that's a function of talking mind to mind.

No wonder it comes out in Hobbitese.

Elizabeth is the TORnsib formerly known as 'erather'


Sep 3 2010, 9:05am

Post #127 of 129 (1409 views)
That's it! [In reply to] Can't Post

You've got Sauron in a nutshell right there!


They went in, and Sam shut the door.
But even as he did so, he heard suddenly,
deep and unstilled,
the sigh and murmur of the Sea upon the shores of Middle-earth.
From the unpublished Epilogue to the Lord of the Rings


Sep 4 2010, 9:34pm

Post #128 of 129 (1302 views)
Sauron is the only bad guy who speaks Hobbit [In reply to] Can't Post

If we follow the assumption that everything in LoTR is written and filtered/translated by hobbits, then the WiKing's words to Eowyn--which Merry certainly heard firsthand--are also full of menace and evil, vs. Sauron's vanilla words to Pippin.


Sep 4 2010, 9:40pm

Post #129 of 129 (1686 views)
The difference may be... [In reply to] Can't Post

...that Merry heard the words spoken, whereas Pippin's experience was all "telepathic", in his head, and he had to articulate the experience in his own words.

Elizabeth is the TORnsib formerly known as 'erather'

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