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Tolkien wants to funnel them

Curious
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Jun 14 2010, 6:16pm


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into Moria, where Gandalf regrets bringing even Bill the Pony because he predicted they would have to take this dark road. The funneling can sometimes seem artificial, like a Dungeons and Dragons dungeonmaster who is determined to force his players into an area infested with monsters.

However, I think there is a very good reason they did not head west across the Misty Mountains from Rivendell: it was late December, and the northern passes were closed by deep snow. There are other reasons as well -- the west side of the Misty Mountains was wilder than the east, infested with goblins and wolves and nearer to Mirkwood and Dol Guldur. Once the Fellowship headed south from the land of the Beornings, they might have been in great danger.

I do think the idea of walking great distances was more common even in Tolkien's time than it is today. Over long distances, ordinary horses (as opposed to Shadowfax or relay horses) would not necessarily make the trip much shorter, although horses (or ponies) could carry baggage.

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"Three Is Company" -- Let's go camping! Curious Send a private message to Curious Jun 7 2010, 4:10pm
    How often do the ringwraiths find a false trail? NottaSackville Send a private message to NottaSackville Jun 7 2010, 7:05pm
        In "The Hunt for the Ring" in Unfinished Tales Curious Send a private message to Curious Jun 7 2010, 7:44pm
            Nazgul or Aragorn Seven Fathers Send a private message to Seven Fathers Jun 7 2010, 9:34pm
                Aragorn did not dress in all black. Also he would not be asking for Baggins. Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Jun 7 2010, 9:46pm
                    true... Seven Fathers Send a private message to Seven Fathers Jun 7 2010, 11:36pm
                I've never heard that theory before. Curious Send a private message to Curious Jun 7 2010, 10:09pm
                    I thought it was a Nazgul, but never could be sure Seven Fathers Send a private message to Seven Fathers Jun 7 2010, 11:25pm
                    Well, Aragorn first got at the Hobbits sador Send a private message to sador Jun 8 2010, 7:31am
                Another reason for assuming Nazgul, not Aragorn... Desicon9 Send a private message to Desicon9 Jun 8 2010, 3:55am
            Black Riders and Fear beren_boy Send a private message to beren_boy Jun 8 2010, 4:58am
                I like that NottaSackville Send a private message to NottaSackville Jun 8 2010, 12:16pm
                Hobbits rush in where wizards fear to tread? Curious Send a private message to Curious Jun 8 2010, 4:10pm
                    Saruman acting a little wimpy; more on the Nazgul CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jun 8 2010, 5:10pm
                        Are you absolutly certain that was Saruman at Fangorn's edge?// Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Jun 8 2010, 5:42pm
                            Gandalf denies that it was him. Curious Send a private message to Curious Jun 8 2010, 6:05pm
                                You trust someone who could not remember his own name?// Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Jun 8 2010, 8:15pm
                                    Ha! Curious Send a private message to Curious Jun 8 2010, 8:40pm
                                But he doesn't confirm that it was Saruman. N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Jun 8 2010, 8:17pm
                                    Then they would have seen Saruman, Curious Send a private message to Curious Jun 8 2010, 9:01pm
                                    Gandalf's guesses in 'The White Rider' should be taken with a grain of salt. sador Send a private message to sador Jun 9 2010, 5:55am
                        The palantir has disadvantages. Curious Send a private message to Curious Jun 8 2010, 5:43pm
                    Indeed... beren_boy Send a private message to beren_boy Jun 8 2010, 11:53pm
                    Well, Gildor seems to say so specifically. sador Send a private message to sador Jun 9 2010, 5:47am
                        I'm not sure what you mean. Curious Send a private message to Curious Jun 9 2010, 11:09am
            I think Tolkien dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Jun 8 2010, 8:35am
                It's not the failure to catch Frodo, Curious Send a private message to Curious Jun 8 2010, 11:02am
                    Yes, dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Jun 8 2010, 1:02pm
                        yes Twit Send a private message to Twit Jun 8 2010, 1:31pm
                            I quite agree that the land helps Curious Send a private message to Curious Jun 8 2010, 11:49pm
                                Water PhantomS Send a private message to PhantomS Jun 9 2010, 7:57am
                                    Yes, poisoned or polluted water Curious Send a private message to Curious Jun 9 2010, 11:18am
                                        Perhaps this explains the Nazgul's allergy to running water... NottaSackville Send a private message to NottaSackville Jun 9 2010, 11:35am
                                            Quite true. Curious Send a private message to Curious Jun 9 2010, 11:57am
                                            crossing the water. PhantomS Send a private message to PhantomS Jun 10 2010, 4:39pm
                                                Crossing the ocean is Curious Send a private message to Curious Jun 10 2010, 5:07pm
                                You could also say Twit Send a private message to Twit Jun 9 2010, 6:34pm
                                    I'll buy the waterfall. Curious Send a private message to Curious Jun 9 2010, 6:56pm
                                        hmm Twit Send a private message to Twit Jun 9 2010, 8:08pm
            I can actually buy Tolkien's explanation NottaSackville Send a private message to NottaSackville Jun 8 2010, 12:15pm
                Me too. FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Jun 9 2010, 5:55am
                    Oooh, nice! sador Send a private message to sador Jun 9 2010, 6:57am
                    Good try. Curious Send a private message to Curious Jun 9 2010, 11:06am
                        Are there three sides to this plane? NottaSackville Send a private message to NottaSackville Jun 9 2010, 12:32pm
                            Glorfindel couldn't take on all the Nine at once CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jun 9 2010, 1:32pm
                                Good question NottaSackville Send a private message to NottaSackville Jun 9 2010, 1:44pm
                            Again, nice try. Curious Send a private message to Curious Jun 9 2010, 3:25pm
                            what I want to know is..does it have wings? weaver Send a private message to weaver Jun 11 2010, 12:17am
                                In honor of the professor, "it seems to have wings"...// NottaSackville Send a private message to NottaSackville Jun 11 2010, 11:24am
                                Yes, but Curious Send a private message to Curious Jun 11 2010, 2:19pm
                        My point would be FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Jun 9 2010, 1:44pm
                            Regarding Aragorn, Curious Send a private message to Curious Jun 9 2010, 3:44pm
                                Aragorn as immortal or as elf? CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jun 9 2010, 4:51pm
                                    Where there's one exception Curious Send a private message to Curious Jun 9 2010, 5:00pm
                                        The doom on Elrond's children CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jun 10 2010, 3:38pm
                                            I thought Legolas and Gimli left Curious Send a private message to Curious Jun 10 2010, 4:59pm
                                                Yeah, I checked the Tale of Years this morning before work CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jun 10 2010, 5:16pm
                                                    My attempt at an answer FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Jun 11 2010, 12:10am
                                                    Galadriel's grace PhantomS Send a private message to PhantomS Jun 11 2010, 2:57am
                                                    The other thing dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Jun 11 2010, 3:10pm
                                                        not so much about representatives, PhantomS Send a private message to PhantomS Jun 11 2010, 4:00pm
                                Well yes. FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Jun 9 2010, 10:59pm
                                    Rules and ambiguity CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jun 10 2010, 3:12pm
                                        We do know that Beowulf was superhuman. Curious Send a private message to Curious Jun 10 2010, 4:49pm
                                            Did the Index really go back that far? FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Jun 10 2010, 11:46pm
                                                I don't know much about it. Curious Send a private message to Curious Jun 11 2010, 1:41am
                    Nazul as physical warriors, not just ghosts CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jun 9 2010, 12:42pm
                        A few quick answers NottaSackville Send a private message to NottaSackville Jun 9 2010, 12:59pm
                        Well FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Jun 9 2010, 1:19pm
        The nearest escape came later sador Send a private message to sador Jun 8 2010, 7:33am
            Yes, although Curious Send a private message to Curious Jun 8 2010, 11:41am
    Late comments sador Send a private message to sador Jun 13 2010, 7:26am
        the quote PhantomS Send a private message to PhantomS Jun 13 2010, 9:26am
            Of course he did. sador Send a private message to sador Jun 13 2010, 9:29am
        I think Gandalf's greatest mistake Curious Send a private message to Curious Jun 13 2010, 11:59am
            Building tension CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jun 14 2010, 2:30pm
                Regarding WW II, I wouldn't say Curious Send a private message to Curious Jun 14 2010, 3:59pm
                    OK, lousy example about world wars CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jun 14 2010, 5:35pm
                        Tolkien wants to funnel them Curious Send a private message to Curious Jun 14 2010, 6:16pm

 
 
 

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