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James McAvoy Will not be bilbo
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Tim
Tol Eressea


Jan 28 2010, 3:46pm

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Yup [In reply to] Can't Post

My bad.

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sticklebat
Lorien


Jan 28 2010, 6:59pm

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Sheen was born in '69... [In reply to] Can't Post

he's 40...

I'm sure he's got the chops to pull off a 50 year old Bilbo...
he definitely looks the part to me, anyway.

Tri duath telich na estel lin...a si gerich naid bain anirach.


MissAmused
Registered User


Jan 28 2010, 8:35pm

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Michael Sheen [In reply to] Can't Post

Good heavens! He IS a hobbit! He's the very first actor I've seen that I could imagine playing Bilbo. He gets my vote Smile


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Jan 28 2010, 10:38pm

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How much comedy has he done? // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

Kangi Ska

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almas_sparks
Rohan

Jan 28 2010, 10:51pm

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what`s up with Bilbo and comedy? [In reply to] Can't Post

I re-read the Hobbit recently because the whole "Freeman is Bilbo because he`s goofy and a bafoon and comedic" thing didn`t fit my memory of Bilbo Baggins. After reading the book again, I was happy to say I was right. Bilbo is no goofball or bafoon or slapstick. His humor is dry and sarcastic, he does action and is very cunning and bent on getting even with dwarfs who he finds useless and exploiters of his talents. IMO, Bilbo is a remarkable multi-faced character who cannot be reduced to comedy only, despite his inner whining over missed dinner and a soft arm-chair. That`s still thought out with irony.

As for Sheen`s comedy resume, I haven`t seen him in a comedy though he has good timing in lighter moments in Tony Blair franchise, but White Rabbit in upcoming Alice in Wonderland is his straight comedic role, methinks.


Patty
Immortal


Jan 28 2010, 10:52pm

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His part in Laws of Attraction was comedy.. [In reply to] Can't Post

I think. I was so busy looking at Pierce Brosnan I couldn't tell ya much about the movie or Sheen's acting in it.BlushSly

j/k

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Tiria
Bree

Jan 28 2010, 11:16pm

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Bilbo isn't one-note. He's comic AND dramatic and more [In reply to] Can't Post

At the very least, he needs to be able to play the inherent comedy of having a gaggle of dwarves show up on his doorstep. Some of the high-drama actors thrown around for this role simply wouldn't be able to pull this off.

Likewise, someone who's fully a clown couldn't do it, either (hence no Patton Oswalt.)

I think the person in question needs to be able to be goofy, heroic, angsty, confused, quick-witted and everything else, and that means casting someone who really can do all those things, and do them convincingly. Some actors are brilliant comedians, some brilliant dramatists, but it takes a rare one who can pull off both. (Astin and Monaghan managed to do this best before, IMHO.)

Add in the qualification of needing to look like a hobbit, and it's no wonder they're having trouble casting.


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Jan 28 2010, 11:49pm

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Did you skip over the first three chapters? [In reply to] Can't Post

 

Kangi Ska

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almas_sparks
Rohan

Jan 28 2010, 11:54pm

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No I didn`t [In reply to] Can't Post

and Bilbo shouldn`t be judged by those chapters only. yet whenever Bilbo casting is discussed, fans of the certain actor whose resume is all goofy loser comedy, insist that comedy is the alpha and omega of Bilbo character. And that is not true. Bilbo is complex and his character development way surpasses his comedic pott-bellied beginning. By the end of the book, he`s undernourished action hero whose street smarts saved the day more than once (and that includes the fall of the certain diamond-clad dragon). Bilbo = awesome.


(This post was edited by almas_sparks on Jan 28 2010, 11:55pm)


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Jan 29 2010, 12:03am

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Who ever plays Bilbo will have to [In reply to] Can't Post

play the first three chapters. What Bilbo discovers about himself as the adventure procedes is his transformation into the hero that he becomes. But his growth is even more a growth of wisdom than as an action hero though there are aspects of that also.

Kangi Ska

At night one cannot tell if crows are black or white.




almas_sparks
Rohan

Jan 29 2010, 12:07am

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yes, the trick is in what comes after first 3 chapters [In reply to] Can't Post

at least it`s tricky for a comedian who only does comedy. Bilbo requires versatility. 3 chapters are 3 chapters or 15-20 tops minutes of the 3 hours movie part I. I don`t know why you are so focused on those 3 comedy chapters unless you support a comedian for the role.


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Jan 29 2010, 12:18am

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Three chapters takes the adventure to Rivendale. If I am not mistaken. [In reply to] Can't Post

The Troll thing is hilarious!

Kangi Ska

At night one cannot tell if crows are black or white.




Tiria
Bree

Jan 29 2010, 1:41am

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You mean Rivendell, yes?// [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Annael
Half-elven


Jan 29 2010, 1:59am

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I've seen Martin Freeman in dramas [In reply to] Can't Post

almost didn't recognize him as the same actor, always a good sign.

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Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Jan 29 2010, 2:33am

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Sorry this computer does not spell too good. [In reply to] Can't Post

Rivendell (He doffs his hat add bows).

Kangi Ska

At night one cannot tell if crows are black or white.




Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Jan 29 2010, 2:36am

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And, come to think of it, the introduction to Beorn is hilarious too. [In reply to] Can't Post

 

Kangi Ska

At night one cannot tell if crows are black or white.




sticklebat
Lorien


Jan 29 2010, 9:21am

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Freeman & Sheen... [In reply to] Can't Post

are both talented actors...

each of their respective interpretations of Bilbo would be sublime...

I'd welcome either one of these blokes to the challenge of portraying the Baggins...
would be so cool to see auditions from both of these guys to compare and decide.

Tri duath telich na estel lin...a si gerich naid bain anirach.

(This post was edited by sticklebat on Jan 29 2010, 9:22am)


almas_sparks
Rohan

Jan 29 2010, 2:34pm

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or the audition of the guy who gets the part [In reply to] Can't Post

I have a feeling it`s going to be some actor out of the left field that didn`t even feature on Fan Dream Cast Lists.


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Jan 29 2010, 2:47pm

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You know I realy hope so. [In reply to] Can't Post

And that he is brilliant in the part.

Kangi Ska

At night one cannot tell if crows are black or white.



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